Smoke Smoke and more smoke

[MattF]

Put the whole fuel conditioner in the filter and topped up with diesel.

Only just, or have you done some mileage in it since? You need to thrash the
nuts off it, (within reason), once you've put the cleaner in. May take a good
few miles and some large plumes of smoke before you'll see an improvement.

[MattF]

A lot of hoping and praying me thinks

I honestly wouldn't worry, if I were you. Even though head problems do
crop up occasionally, the Surf does actually have a good cooling system
if it's properly maintained. Believe me. Most problems are down to lack
of maintenance, it appears, judging by the general form so far.

[Antshiel]

I honestly wouldn't worry, if I were you. Even though head problems do
crop up occasionally, the Surf does actually have a good cooling system
if it's properly maintained. Believe me. Most problems are down to lack
of maintenance, it appears, judging by the general form so far.

I hope so its pulling a 18ft speedboat all the way to spain & back in june/july next year

[dave.j.robbo]

Put the whole fuel conditioner in the filter and topped up with diesel.

I did that a few filter changes ago. Lots of smoke, and ran rough on idling for a few weeks afterwards.

Came to the conclusion that all the crud built up over the years must have been cleaned away, and that showed up some 'wear' in various parts that let oil/water into the combustion chamber. After a couple of weeks, this build-up had built-up again, the smoke stopped, and the idling was back to normal..

Hopefully, yours is a similar thing..

[Antshiel]

[quote=darrenmurphy555]Wow, so many questions. Glowplugs from roughtrax. See im learning. Was good for a few weeks but still a little smoke so went on to do the filter. Put the whole fuel conditioner in the filter and topped up with diesel. Did what it said on the tin. Or was that ronseal? Anyway, starts easy but struggles to tick over. Not using any oil in the tank, only the diesel variety.


Adding it to the filter will produce smoke but only for a few miles, maybe the $h1t is being cleaned from injectors and should clear pretty much after a short run. if added to the tank it will smoke for a little longer but it will eventually reduce.

[darrenmurphy555]

I was thinking that the cleaner may well have highlighted some wear. The cleaner i used was wynns. Im tempted to take it out and give it a thrash now? Its not so bad when its dark. Cant see much smoke at all.
Ive heard the fuel pump issue is serious bucks. Just want to exhaust all other options first. Will give it a try and post a note tomorrow.
thanks for the advice.
Darren

[Antshiel]

I was thinking that the cleaner may well have highlighted some wear. The cleaner i used was wynns. Im tempted to take it out and give it a thrash now? Its not so bad when its dark. Cant see much smoke at all.
Ive heard the fuel pump issue is serious bucks. Just want to exhaust all other options first. Will give it a try and post a note tomorrow.
thanks for the advice.
Darren

Just go out at night instead NO LIGHT = NO SMOKE

[MattF]

I was thinking that the cleaner may well have highlighted some wear. The cleaner i used was wynns. Im tempted to take it out and give it a thrash now? Its not so bad when its dark. Cant see much smoke at all.
Ive heard the fuel pump issue is serious bucks. Just want to exhaust all other options first. Will give it a try and post a note tomorrow.
thanks for the advice.
Darren

The usual advice given for when you add the injector cleaner is, for the
first good run after adding it:

To drive it like you stole it.

Seriously. If you haven't done many miles since adding the cleaner, get out
there and give it a good dose of the right hand pedal.

With regards to the injector pump, there are cheaper alternatives than
recon, or repair, unless things have changed. A purely mechanical pump
can be fitted.

[MattF]

I hope so its pulling a 18ft speedboat all the way to spain & back in june/july next year

The things I would suggest doing would be firstly to make sure your rad
is in good and clear condition. That's the most important. Then, check
the viscous fan is working as it should and add some fresh silicone oil if
required. Lastly, if you want to really go the full hog, add an ATF oil cooler,
but make sure you have it running through a thermostatic valve, not just
a straight cooler plumbed inline.

I *used* to have the motto of cooler is better. It's not. Moderating and
controlling the cooling system is good. Overheating or overcooling is not.

[Antshiel]

The things I would suggest doing would be firstly to make sure your rad
is in good and clear condition. That's the most important. Then, check
the viscous fan is working as it should and add some fresh silicone oil if
required. Lastly, if you want to really go the full hog, add an ATF oil cooler,
but make sure you have it running through a thermostatic valve, not just
a straight cooler plumbed inline.

I *used* to have the motto of cooler is better. It's not. Moderating and
controlling the cooling system is good. Overheating or overcooling is not.

I was toying with the idea of addind an atf oil cooler but it seens a mammoth job. I have read a few posts on this and there doesn't seem to be any easier alternative. Will this really make that much difference in keeping my engine at correct temp? Obviously the head and cooling system is being done today by Stevo (just collected it) will this be enough until i have time and funds to add an atf cooler?

" im sure addind is in the oxford dictionary somewhere"

[Antshiel]

I think i might just replace the rad with a fridge instead

[MattF]

I was toying with the idea of addind an atf oil cooler but it seens a mammoth job. I have read a few posts on this and there doesn't seem to be any easier alternative. Will this really make that much difference in keeping my engine at correct temp? Obviously the head and cooling system is being done today by Stevo (just collected it) will this be enough until i have time and funds to add an atf cooler?

The ATF cooler should be classed as an add on mod, not as a necessity. It'll
be fine once the head work is done. Adding a cooler isn't that large a job. In
it's basic form, it merely requires pulling off, (or extending), one hose on the
bottom of the rad, and adding another hose back to the rad bottom. Mounting
the cooler is the main part of the work. Don't forget the thermostatic valve as
well.

[Antshiel]

Maybe thats one for next year then, cheers matt....

[dar_sbb]

if u let the truck idle say for around 5mins or so will it start to puff out smoke... and idle badly?

and

on some start ups do u get a piston knock?

[Simon.O.]

if u let the truck idle say for around 5mins or so will it start to puff out smoke... and idle badly?

Yes.....sometimes. not a good look in the drive through at Burger king.