engine seized we have been told????????

[del1975]

hi we have a k reg 2.4turbo diesel surf.we was going down the road about 25 mph. all the dash lights came on like it had stalled tryed to restart and it wouldnt do anything other than click. towed it home got gatward to come out and look at it ( under our insurance) and he said it had seized???? any ideas??? oil fine!! water fine!!. a hour before hand it was running fine as usual no knocking or banging or smoke nothing. any help would be greatly apprecated. sorry about the speling iam new to this computer thing.

[mud skipper]

has anyone done anything to find the cause?

it could be hydrauliced ie bores full of fuel,oil or water.

or could it be a flat battery as the fan belt has come off or alternator goosed

good luck with it hope its not going to be expensive, btw you are on the right site for info
john

[BUSHWHACKER]

Assuming your truck is an automatic, I hope all four wheels were off the gound when it was towed home!

It could be that the alternator is knackered, the reason all the dash lights coming on and the starter motor clicking due to bad connection or flat batteries.

Or, timing belt has snapped.

The guy who claimed the engine had seized, how did he check, did he try and turn the engine over by hand with a spanner or socket and bar on the crankshaft pulley?

[del1975]

he put it in gear and rocked it backwards and forwards in gear i think my girlfriend was here i was at work the surf is manuel

[andycook]

sounds like a vague diagnosis! - i would certainly get a 2nd opinion
as could be one of the things the others have suggested

[mud skipper]

he put it in gear and rocked it backwards and forwards in gear i think my girlfriend was here i was at work the surf is manuel

i persume he did have the clutch pressed down while rocking it if not i could be anything from a sticky brake to a trashed tranny.

[TonyN]

i persume he did have the clutch pressed down while rocking it if not i could be anything from a sticky brake to a trashed tranny.

If he had the clutch pressed how you tell if the engine is seized by rocking it while in gear?

If you can't turn it on the key, and the engine won't move while rocking the car in gear then something is locked up for sure.

If the tranny was stuffed or brake seized it would still crank over on the key with the clutch in.

Sound pretty serious to me. I'd pull all the V belts off and see it turns, then you need to go deeper. Pull the starter out and check nothings jammed in the flywheel, Then try a big breaker bar on the crank nut.

[mud skipper]

If he had the clutch pressed how you tell if the engine is seized by rocking it while in gear?

If you can't turn it on the key, and the engine won't move while rocking the car in gear then something is locked up for sure.

If the tranny was stuffed or brake seized it would still crank over on the key with the clutch in.

Sound pretty serious to me. I'd pull all the V belts off and see it turns, then you need to go deeper. Pull the starter out and check nothings jammed in the flywheel, Then try a big breaker bar on the crank nut.

thats wot this site is for numpties like me, who aint got a clue

sorry just igrone my previous post as im thick.

[TonyN]

thats wot this site is for numpties like me, who aint got a clue

sorry just igrone my previous post as im thick.

hehe, its OK, you just missed to point of doing it for diagnostic reasons.

[mud skipper]

hehe, its OK, you just missed to point of doing it for diagnostic reasons.

Vince is fully aware wot im like with advice, type a reply and send pefore putting my brain in gear ....doh

[del1975]

hey guys thanx very much really apprecaited. what if i took the rocker cover off? see if ther is any damage?

[TonyN]

You can see if the oil is manky or got bits of metal in it, and see if the cam turns, this would rule out top end troubles.

If you remove the cam, you can measure all the valve stem heights and see if any are bent.

[del1975]

sounds like a plan thanx a lot mate will i have to take the rad out to try to turn the crank? sorry i havent relly looked at the engine bay

[TonyN]

sounds like a plan thanx a lot mate will i have to take the rad out to try to turn the crank? sorry i havent relly looked at the engine bay

Nah, you can leave the rad, but be careful of slipping spanners that could hole it.

You'll need to remove the fan and rad cowl to get to the crank nut if you have the underslung air-con rad.

[That Ruddy Squirrel]

If all else fails get it towed to Basingstoke for EXPERT care.


Trev