air con refilled

[bravo]

hi all
ive found a garage that will get the gear to refill out surfs but only if a load of us will have it done. now it will cost £100 each as he has to empty the old system and replace the filter( didnt know there was one ) as the old gas and new gas would explode, each car would take about 1 hour to do so we will need to book them in, so anyone interested let me know and i will tell the garage so he can buy the unit. tyne and wear area
cheers bravo

[shokenore]

hi all
ive found a garage that will get the gear to refill out surfs but only if a load of us will have it done. now it will cost £100 each as he has to empty the old system and replace the filter( didnt know there was one ) as the old gas and new gas would explode, each car would take about 1 hour to do so we will need to book them in, so anyone interested let me know and i will tell the garage so he can buy the unit. tyne and wear area
cheers bravo

If only it was a simple as just swapping the gases(it isn't) but seeing as your garage know what they are doing(they don't) I would suggest looking up their F gas registration number (legal requirement since July 4 2011)and seeing what previous experience they have doing this work,hopefully it is not the same garage that said your recent judder was your turbo.But on a point of fact please see below;
The gases when mixed will not explode,if the filter is not changed.

[TonyN]

Subtle....

There is drop in gas to replace R12 that doesn't need any extra work done, its not quite as cold, but works fine.

I get charged about £60 to do it as the gas is expensive.

3.0's with R134a gas are no hassle and about £35

[shokenore]

The main factor to consider is the oil used in the compressor.
One other concern is the two gases do not have the same physical properties,ie different pressure/temperature relationship.

The original oil used on R12 systems is a mineral oil.
The oil used on R134a systems is a polyol ester oil.
These oils do not readily mix and mineral oil is not miscible with R134a.


Like Tony has said drop-ins work fine they do what they were designed to do.The drop-ins were developed for exactly this purpose, and they work with mineral and synthetic oils ,they have a very similar pressure/temperature slope and do not cause problems.

Would I pay £100 for someone to experiment with my Surf ? NO.


Having said all that if you know what you are doing you can run R134a in the systems.

My Surf has been running with R134a for at least 8 years and has been totally fine.
It would still be fine if the underslung condensor had not met Salisbury Plain.

[animal]

I had mine regassed just over a month and half ago by my local garage , they charged me £15 as they know me , and told me they will do anyone I recommend for £30.

[shokenore]

I had mine regassed just over a month and half ago by my local garage , they charged me £15 as they know me , and told me they will do anyone I recommend for £30.

£30 for a happy ending ? seems a bit steep

[J i m s t e r]

Quick Fit did mine last week, £60 or thereabouts.