I love my Surf but.....

[Rick]

....I thought they were meant to have grip! Mine just loses it on corners when it is wet and I actually feel unsafe in it. The car itself is great for camping holidays with the family but I don't want to kill them.

Any tip or should I get shut of a car that I like overall?

Cheers...Rich.

[TonyN]

Nothing wrong with the car, you just need to slow down abit when its wet, like any other 2 ton RWD car.

Maybe get some road tyres, but these will ruin the offroad fun when its wet.

We've had this discussion last time it rained. went on for a few pages.

[hormygollop]

....I thought they were meant to have grip! Mine just loses it on corners when it is wet and I actually feel unsafe in it. The car itself is great for camping holidays with the family but I don't want to kill them.

Any tip or should I get shut of a car that I like overall?

Cheers...Rich.

Get some good road tyres makes all the difference
Keith

[RobD]

Narrower tyres help,my old '92 Trooper stuck to the road like glue when it was wet,that was about the only good thing about it!

[SparX]

you have to remember its a rear wheel drive , with a hell of alot or torque (spell?) , your either pushing it hard , or your tyres aren't up to the job.


im sure the more experienced surfers will have more technical answers for you.

[TonyN]

Other discussions here.............

http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/Forums/showthread.php?t=256

http://www.yotasurf.co.uk/Forums/showthread.php?t=285

Lots of opinions and fun, see you in a while!

[Delboy]

What people dont seem to realise is that you CANT drive these like cars. They're designed for pulling horse boxes and driving on farms. if they want to drive fast and be safe, they should buy volvos and wrap them in bubble wrap!

[JimL]

Narrower tyres help,my old '92 Trooper stuck to the road like glue when it was wet,that was about the only good thing about it!

Rob you have the experience coz you did it but that cant be generally the case can it ???? More rubber means more contact with the road means more grip. Less rubber means more contact with fresh air....

[RobD]

Rob you have the experience coz you did it but that cant be generally the case can it ???? More rubber means more contact with the road means more grip. Less rubber means more contact with fresh air....

Narrower tyres cut through water better though Jim,better off road too.Wide tyres tend to aquaplane more.

[Hilux]

Tyres

Who Said That!!!!!!!!!!

[RobD]

Who Said That!!!!!!!!!!

I did,don't you agree?I'm talking from experience 11 years of it.

[TonyN]

Narrower tyres cut through water better though Jim,better off road too.Wide tyres tend to aquaplane more.

It works to an extent, narrow tyres will cut though the junk better then wide tyres, but if the mud/snow is too deep you won't gain much and you might as well go for larger contact patch with wider tyres.

I had fat tyres (305 or so) on the pickup then I got it, they tramlined like a bugger on lines in the road and white lines and man hole covers were murder in the wet. Solid as a rock in the dry though.

The sort of offroading we do there is nothing in it, but personally I'd go as wide and agressive as poss while having the power to spin them up to clear the mud out. (not an ideal option for wet tarmac use! )

Nothing looks as good as 'phat' rubber though!

[JimL]

Once the thread groove is deep enough to take the water displaced by the contacting part of the tyre, then providing there are more threads on the wider tyre then aquaplaning should be no more a threat. No grip is one thing on a slippy surface like a wet or icy road but I would have thought aquaplaning was a car hitting a large pool at speed and loosing traction as the water just couldnt be moved quick enough...

[Koi]

Get it sliding get used to it and then do it for fun and watch the other drivers faces

[TonyN]

Once the thread groove is deep enough to take the water displaced by the contacting part of the tyre, then providing there are more threads on the wider tyre then aquaplaning should be no more a threat. No grip is one thing on a slippy surface like a wet or icy road but I would have thought aquaplaning was a car hitting a large pool at speed and loosing traction as the water just couldnt be moved quick enough...

Never had any trouble aquaplaning in the wet with these tyres 16" wide, made great 'rooster tails' behind the truck as well!

Can be made to go sideways in the wet with a bit of throttle though,



I miss these tyres, definatly going back on the truck for devils pit!