Union Strikes

[John h]

well if you private sector lot think that the strikes were just for public sector i think your blinkered. the government want everyone to work until there 67 years old which means you wont get your state pensions until then so the strikes in my opinion were called for.

this is another reason why nothing changes over here the british people do not stick together, quick enough to spout opinions and gob off about whats right and wrong but when people do fight for something that will effect the whole population you get groups of people saying "pay more in your pot if your not happy" "find another job" "dont sponge off the tax payer" it realy does #### me off.

honestly im happy with my job, not happy with the people that run my job but we have lost 25% of our pension, been on a pay freeze for 3 years so far we have been told that once the pay freeze has finished we are to take another 2 year freeze so that totals 5 years pay freeze but inflation still goes up. overtime in whole has been cut and near impossible to get payed for but still work over contracted hours to get the job done WELL DONE ME no its part of my job so it has to be done, we are also going through redundancies and voulentery redundancies with privatisation looming in the distant future and if you wondering my wage for the year is £23.418 so its not that bad but far from gold plated out of that £23k comes tax etc so i get a lot less than i actualy earn on paper.

so just for a change why doesnt this country stick together and all agree to stop this crap happening and lining the pockets of bankers and mp. grrrrrrrrrrrr rant over now were is my popcorn.

Now then Soldier !

do you mean to tell me they actualy pay you to tear around the east riding in those souped up war machines ????

hope you and your good lady are well ?

[sabreuk]

Impressed slobodan that you deleted your post ref the last comment in it at least. Are you ok or feeling under the weather and can't be bothered to argue with me for a change lol

[ziggy]

advent calender

I think the strike was all arranged for payday the end of the month so it was just a christmas shopping day for all involved

[slobodan]

Impressed slobodan that you deleted your post ref the last comment in it at least. Are you ok or feeling under the weather and can't be bothered to argue with me for a change lol

We had the argument, it's finished with, It was childish of me to bring it up again.

[frontman]

I supported the Strike today. I'm a Community Health Care Assistant. On the Picket Line we had overall good support, a couple of Tw*ts shouted at us to get back to work. (Tory supporter I suspect)
Did any of you guys strike?

I care about your conditions and pension as much as you care about mine !!!
And I care even less about your politics.

I'm £31.50 out of pocket for child care

And why is someone who does not agree with you a Tw*t ?

Clarkson may have had a point.

[POPEYE]

Bstd's just stopped 5 quid a week of my pension, nice one cameron

off with his nuts!! (if he has any)

[sabreuk]

Fair one slobodan how you been keeping anyway?

John been a while bud I hear on the grapevine you have a nice war machine your self and yep we are good bud, how's you doing?

There is plenty of change coming our way and none of it good

Giz a tinkle John when your not busy

[sabreuk]

Frontman not having a go at ya but £31.50 compared to the days pay the strikers lost plus any overtime any of them earned plus the an overtime ban for the next month after the strike day on top of everything else civil servants have lost upto this point like the pay freezes etc

The strikers haven't got anything else to give now. the pension was the last straw for them but it does effect your state pension as I said before and your retirement age will go to 67.

In my opinion it's the senior civil servants (mp etc) that need to take all of the above and ban them all from claiming state money for holidays, houses, cars, servants etc normal working class civil servants are struggling to survive just as much as public sector workers.

The media is very good at twisting things to make a story but they don't report the full issue, just what they want you to see, when was the last time you something positive or a happy story reported??? It's always doom and gloom.

Why is it ok for the bankers to use our money on stocks etc to make them more money? It's ok until they make the wrong decision and who then gets the bill????? The tax payer but they still manage to make millions and have there massive bonuses etc your targeting working class people with the same brush as the bankers and mp,s and that's why discussions like this get out of hand and people get shirty quickly as the full facts are not always as clear as what's reported.

[smurfL6]

I care about your conditions and pension as much as you care about mine !!!
And I care even less about your politics.

I'm £31.50 out of pocket for child care

And why is someone who does not agree with you a Tw*t ?

Clarkson may have had a point.

A 6ft bloke yelling at a 5ft woman thats she's a lazy ####### and should get back to work 'yeh I think he's a tw*t'!

I chose to work in the career I do because of the security and pension. You all made your choice to work in the private sector.

My husband is a builder paying into a private pension.

Why is it only now that we are trying to stop the Con Dems taking away what we've paid into are people showing such hatred of public sector workers?

[JD_975]

well if you private sector lot think that the strikes were just for public sector i think your blinkered. the government want everyone to work until there 67 years old which means you wont get your state pensions until then so the strikes in my opinion were called for.

this is another reason why nothing changes over here the british people do not stick together, quick enough to spout opinions and gob off about whats right and wrong but when people do fight for something that will effect the whole population you get groups of people saying "pay more in your pot if your not happy" "find another job" "dont sponge off the tax payer" it realy does #### me off.

honestly im happy with my job, not happy with the people that run my job but we have lost 25% of our pension, been on a pay freeze for 3 years so far we have been told that once the pay freeze has finished we are to take another 2 year freeze so that totals 5 years pay freeze but inflation still goes up. overtime in whole has been cut and near impossible to get payed for but still work over contracted hours to get the job done WELL DONE ME no its part of my job so it has to be done, we are also going through redundancies and voulentery redundancies with privatisation looming in the distant future and if you wondering my wage for the year is £23.418 so its not that bad but far from gold plated out of that £23k comes tax etc so i get a lot less than i actualy earn on paper.

so just for a change why doesnt this country stick together and all agree to stop this crap happening and lining the pockets of bankers and mp. grrrrrrrrrrrr rant over now were is my popcorn.

Not trying to cause an argument within an argument here, I`ve stayed out of this thus far but I have to take precedent with your post.

I work in the private sector, have done all my life, I`m guessing you work in the public sector. I am on similar money to you and yes believe it or not have to pay tax on that too, I have not had a pay rise in 5 years and I doubt I will get one anytime soon, and yes incredibly it probably costs me the same for a litre of fuel or a pint of milk as it does you and my overtime and bonus has pretty much disappeared too.

The difference is I have seen so many of my co-workers laid off now when work is slack I am grateful I have managed to keep my job through it, I have never had access to any form of contributory pension scheme as low and behold it is not mandatory for private sector employers to provide one. I would not strike even if the chance arose as I would lose a days pay.

It`s not a perfect system and yes I disagree with how the government has chosen to deal with some aspects of bringing the country out of recession but that is a different conversation, with this however I feel all that is happening is the public sector is coming into line with the private sector, I doubt you will find many people who work in the private sector who will support you or sympathize especially since you have now cost them money! And you will probably find most people within the private sector had already resigned to the fact that unless they had something better in place, by the time they reach retirement age there probably wont be a state pension and they can just work till they drop!

My parting notion is.... Get over yourselves, deal with it like the rest of us, your just not that important!

[Chillitt]

A 6ft bloke yelling at a 5ft woman thats she's a lazy ####### and should get back to work 'yeh I think he's a tw*t'!

I chose to work in the career I do because of the security and pension. You all made your choice to work in the private sector.

My husband is a builder paying into a private pension.

Why is it only now that we are trying to stop the Con Dems taking away what we've paid into are people showing such hatred of public sector workers?

Just think, If the unions had stood up to say the state pension is a disgrace, and we shouldn't need all these private pensions just to have the heating on, then half the country would have walked out with you. from the outside this strike looks like the unions really couldn't care less about the mess the whole country is in, or how to get out of it, you are just worried about what its going to cost you. In fact what the union is doing is making things worse. Thats why you are getting grief.

Imagine it's 2020, we are looking back at the worst years of this, unemployment is just dropping back below 4 million, The trains are starting to run again, and finally we are free of Europe, and people are picking over the bones of what went wrong, do you want to be part of the unions that are still hated (the way miners hate the police even now) for dragging the country down even more, and spend your retirement well off but ignored by your neighbours, or hailed for having that Blitz mentality, digging in for a rough few years and now deserving a decent pay package from all the money the UKIP government have saved from not pouring billions into propping up the Euro for another 10 years..

[smurfL6]

I'm not going to argue or try and convience anyone the strike was right because at the moment we are all the losers. The only winners are the top 1% laughing at us all squabbling..............The Apathy and Strikes are just turning the attention away from the people who caused this crisis in the begining

[shokenore]

I'm not going to argue or try and convience anyone the strike was right because at the moment we are all the losers. The only winners are the top 1% laughing at us all squabbling..............The Apathy and Strikes are just turning the attention away from the people who caused this crisis in the begining

Although you are wrong I respect your opinion .

Next time could you start a topic that has a bit of controversy?


Merry Xmas.

[sabreuk]

My parting notion is.... Get over yourselves, deal with it like the rest of us, your just not that important!

not that important realy so fire service,police,nhs,mod have to get over there selfs............

well ok then maybe we should strike indefinatley then, when everybody turns around and wants there fire putting out or they want there life saving with the nhs or your house is being burgled maybe we should just think #### it WE ARE NOT THAT IMPORTANT.

oh but then that would be different then wouldnt it, if i recall when the riots were going on who did the PRIVATE SECTOR want to stop all there property and livlihoods from being destroyed oh its coming clear now the police that was it and then oh wait didnt people want the army to come in uh huh.

the strikes were to show that civil servants cant give no more and why the hell should we. if it was the other way around and it was your life styles and your financal future being sold off beacuse the government cant sort there spending and borowing would that be ok i realy dont think so.................

i do sympathise with what you described but that is what we are dealing with have been for years its just not reported as said above. we are made to look like the bad ones which isnt the case at all and this is what its about there is a clear split between civil and private the unions joined forces as the months of negotiations failed. and the result private think we are being selfish and greedy and the government end up getting votes to stay in office with the extra support from the private sector its a big game but at the end of it TAX PAYERS will always loose weather private or civil unless we stick together as a country.

[meooo]

Well.
My plan was to retire @ 55, had my pension (private) all set, all was going well, then it was all put on "stop" and all bonus's cut/slashed/stopped...so ok I'll sell up and use collaterol from the house sale...enter the Bankers...no house sales. So now I'm stuck with working longer..an extra year before I get my state pension and the SERPs payments I continued to pay are now threatened so I won't get the benefit of the extra I paid for that.
My wife is a mental health nurse (34 years) and can take her pension @ 55, so with just 3 years to go she has been forced to REDUCE her hours, which will impact on her pension.
The last three years her pension plan has been "improved" those improvements involved paying more in, work longer and receive less in lump sum/final pension...it was actually being sold to staff as an improved plan, but because of her age and time left she had the option to continue with what she already had, and I must say is far more rewarding than my private pension will ever be...
Just my thoughts on it


Oh and because her hours have been reduced, she's now going to join the local lifeboat crew .... they have NO pension plan NO pay NO insurance and all volunteer to go out in ANY weather to save the asses of those in peril @ sea, whilst risking their own...did I mention for NO Pension?