0-60 in 2.7 secs!!

[Apache]

Some of you are completely missing the point

The Nissan is as dull as dishwater, and if you use it's potential (other than boring the arse off everyone with your track day expertise) then you wont have a license for very long. Women wont look twice at you, and blokes with pitbulls and lots of tats will admire you.

The Jag on the other hand (the old XK-R, not the anonymous later ones) looks just gorgeous, is lovely inside, turns heads, makes people who don't know think you're a millionaire, and will get you gorgeous birds (assuming you're single - which I'm not...)

Oh, and Henry, they might be aimed at the more mature owner, but hey, I AM an 'old man'

[BUSHWHACKER]

Real petrol heads are getting very thin on the ground these days then it seems!
It's nothing to do with what looks like, it's the engineering behind that engine to produce 'Hyper car' performance figures out or a small dispacement V6, that won't need a re-tune every 500 miles and that is equally at home bumbling around town as it is pulling your face off every time you floor the loud pedal.
Also you don't get that highly strung 'chomping at the bit' lurching that the likes of Lambos and Ferraris costing three times as much produce, every time you try to drive them slowly. Luddites, tch!

p.s. I wouln't want any car that a footballer would buy!

[Wolfracer]

Real petrol heads are getting very thin on the ground these days then it seems!

So true.

Bu then again you're asking the views of a load of "older" men that "tootle" around in underpowered (for the majority) uitlity vehicles.

If you've ever driven very fast (150mph+) and quickly (big difference between the two mind) then you'll know the problems there are that just don't appear in regular engined road cars.

Fantastic machine IMHO, looks rubbish though. Price imaterial as I can't afford one even if it was $50k cheaper

[slobodan]

I think Martin Petrov (footballer) has one.

Just sayin'

[TonyN]

Here here!!! Thats exactly my point, but written with more intelligence!



(I do like the XK-R's and DBthingys though.)

Real petrol heads are getting very thin on the ground these days then it seems!
It's nothing to do with what looks like, it's the engineering behind that engine to produce 'Hyper car' performance figures out or a small dispacement V6, that won't need a re-tune every 500 miles and that is equally at home bumbling around town as it is pulling your face off every time you floor the loud pedal.
Also you don't get that highly strung 'chomping at the bit' lurching that the likes of Lambos and Ferraris costing three times as much produce, every time you try to drive them slowly. Luddites, tch!

p.s. I wouln't want any car that a footballer would buy!

[Kiwisurfing]

whats the point, my old surf can do 0-60 in 2.7......minutes

Getting close to lexus transplant time I think, 2.4s killing me slowly

[Wolfracer]

whats the point, my old surf can do 0-60 in 2.7......minutes

You must have the 3.0l then?

[flounderbout]

Here here!!! Thats exactly my point, but written with more intelligence!



(I do like the XK-R's and DBthingys though.)

*hear hear

What you want out of a car differs for everyone. 0-60 is one thing, time A to B on a windy B road another, looks cruising up to somewhere another etc etc. All equally justified, and all opinions equally valid. At the end of the day all supercars are irrational. Girls generally aren't nearly as interested as we think they are, the performance is pretty pointless in 95% of situations, and none of them are worth the money in any kind of rational sense.
But life is for living. If you have the chance of owning, driving, or just dreaming about any or all of the above then great.
Personally I have had more pleasure out of Lexurf VI than any car I have ever owned because of the investment I have felt in watching it being born and tinkering with it since (and I scared the crap out of a Porsche owning friend in it tonight ). But any car that stokes the emotions is a car worth having or at least hankering after in my book. Some I don't understand, some I do. But either way I get it.
The "brand" thing is a bit nuts though. I would be embarrassed to own a Fezza, and think Porsches are uncool, but think Astons rock. Go figure. They're all just corporations at the end of the day.
I guess that is the point though. Cars have the capacity to stir feelings. And thank goodness.

[biosurf]

*hear hear

What you want out of a car differs for everyone. 0-60 is one thing, time A to B on a windy B road another, looks cruising up to somewhere another etc etc. All equally justified, and all opinions equally valid. At the end of the day all supercars are irrational. Girls generally aren't nearly as interested as we think they are, the performance is pretty pointless in 95% of situations, and none of them are worth the money in any kind of rational sense.
But life is for living. If you have the chance of owning, driving, or just dreaming about any or all of the above then great.
Personally I have had more pleasure out of Lexurf VI than any car I have ever owned because of the investment I have felt in watching it being born and tinkering with it since (and I scared the crap out of a Porsche owning friend in it tonight ). But any car that stokes the emotions is a car worth having or at least hankering after in my book. Some I don't understand, some I do. But either way I get it.
The "brand" thing is a bit nuts though. I would be embarrassed to own a Fezza, and think Porsches are uncool, but think Astons rock. Go figure. They're all just corporations at the end of the day.
I guess that is the point though. Cars have the capacity to stir feelings. And thank goodness.

Coherent, logical and emotive prose...





HENRY IT'S AFTER 11! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING AT!?!

[flounderbout]

Coherent, logical and emotive prose...





HENRY IT'S AFTER 11! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PLAYING AT!?!

Too much wine. I apologize - it's an old man thing. Normal service will be resumed shortly...

[biosurf]

Too much wine. I apologize - it's an old man thing. Normal service will be resumed shortly...

One presumes sir is drinking a wine from the Americas if sir is spelling 'apologise' like that?

[Apache]

Ooooh, very sharp, Paul.

Well put Henry.

Personally, the idea of owning the Nissan doesn't interest me in the slightest - apart from it being technically rather clever. I'd probably enjoy reading about how Nissan did what they did in diagrams and technical manuals rather than drive it. It doesn't stir me.

For example, a Lancia 037 in Martini colours does stir me. It has pedigree and history, and looks brutal - and has a purpose. I wouldn't really call myself a petrolhead, but I don't think not really being interested in the Nissan disqualifies me.

[Karma Supra]

Real petrol heads are getting very thin on the ground these days then it seems!

I don't entirely agree.. I'm a total petrol head.... but i think there is more skil and fun to be had in wrestling something arounda track, as opposed to having something do most of the hard work for you...

[flounderbout]

One presumes sir is drinking a wine from the Americas if sir is spelling 'apologise' like that?

Steve Jobs' fault. Didn't notice the autocorrect autocorrecting so didn't recorrect it.

If engineering was everything, then the Veyron would be king no? Yet it leaves me utterly cold (this is the sole reason I haven't bought a couple ).

[BUSHWHACKER]

I don't entirely agree.. I'm a total petrol head.... but i think there is more skil and fun to be had in wrestling something arounda track, as opposed to having something do most of the hard work for you...

Missed the point of the original post again!