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  • #46
    Originally posted by leighh View Post
    Even if you could be 100% sure of guilt, you still don't kill people. You've got to have the higher moral standard. Basing a criminal justice system on revenge is only good for wasting lives and money. Did any one see the Louis Theroux documentaries on U.S. prisons? Essential viewing for anyone clamouring for a return to the dark ages...
    Uk locks up 140 per 100,000 one of the highest rates in Europe. USA locks up 740 per 100,000 their system is out of control.
    Brian

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    • #47
      Originally posted by yoshie View Post
      Ok England does not have enough prisons and you can't afford it.
      True...

      That place oop north has loads of open space. We'll stick them there. They've got all our cash grants anyway...
      Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Apache View Post
        England?
        He said money, not crooks...
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Albannach View Post
          He said money, not crooks...
          Sorry, should have been more explicit. Westminster.

          Ohhh...
          Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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          • #50
            Originally posted by yoshie View Post
            Bad examples to illustrate your point Andy. Given that both Campbell and Ferris are guilty.
            Campbell wasn't guilty of the Doyle murders and Ferris was set up with the Gun Running thing. Both were criminals, no doubting that; but they were stitched up.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Albannach View Post
              Campbell wasn't guilty of the Doyle murders and Ferris was set up with the Gun Running thing. Both were criminals, no doubting that; but they were stitched up.
              Campbell ordered the Doyle murders
              Ferris has murdered
              Brian

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              • #52
                Originally posted by yoshie View Post
                Campbell ordered the Doyle murders
                Ferris has murdered
                Yeah, but in Ferris' favour, he made some pretty fun wheels.
                Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Apache View Post
                  Yeah, but in Ferris' favour, he made some pretty fun wheels.
                  Thou hard to get tyres for
                  Brian

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by yoshie View Post
                    Campbell ordered the Doyle murders
                    Ferris has murdered
                    McGraw ordered the Doyle murders. I can't comment on the Ferris thing.

                    Either way, they were convicted of crimes they didn't commit. And this is another beer and fire discussion.
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                    • #55
                      I can happily account for lots pf bneer tonight, but no fire til tomorrow
                      Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                      • #56
                        Yes: for people who drive too slow or don't pull back in on motorways.

                        No: for murder, I might one day kill someone who does the above.


                        Seriously, it'll never happen.

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                        • #57
                          Death penalty

                          After many years of campaigning for a posthumous pardon for James Hanratty by his family,DNA has now proved he did commit murder,but Harvey Hawley Crippen is now presumed to be innocent,the remains found in the cellar were not his wife but are actually of a male.So who is buried in his "wifes" grave in Paddington cemetary,and if Dr.Crippen did not murder his wife,what happened to her.As an aside point,Dr. Crippens family in America want a pardon for him,and they want his body returned to them for proper burial in the family plot.??????

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