wtf is going on lately

[animal]

Looks like ill have to sort out the bottom of our garden like rusty has to.
Just read in the local paper that a 19 year old lad that lives in the house that is at the back of our garden has just been sent down for 2 and a half years for sexual assault on a 12 year girl.
This world is going to the dogs!

[Rustinho]

Looks like ill have to sort out the bottom of our garden like rusty has to.
Just read in the local paper that a 19 year old lad that lives in the house that is at the back of our garden has just been sent down for 2 and a half years for sexual assault on a 12 year girl.
This world is going to the dogs!

It's a bl00dy nightmare. I don't think I'm being paranoid or over-cautious with my situation cos no matter how small the risk of anything happening is, the consequences just don't bear thinking about.

Having said that, we've lived here a couple of years or so now and we only found out about the bloke living in the house behind ours when he started acting suspiciously with thinning the hedge and building his new shed right next to where he could peer through to our garden. Thank god we have some decent neighbours elsewhere around us.

[Diezel Weazel]

I feel for you Guys n ya kids ..... n I fear it's only gonna get worse !!
As we're importing aswell now ...

[animal]

I don't think your being paranoid at all mate. I'd rather be over cautious than to have to deal with the consequences if something happened.
On this estate there's people letting their 6 year olds play streets away ,walk themselves to the park etc , none of them kids would stand a chance if someone tried to snatch them .

[Calos]

Does my fruit in, "we" us 40-somethings and older used to be able to go play out all day, these days even a low population area like I live in I just couldn't let my young lad to do that ! , play out but in sight of the house or with a trusted adult, winds me up that what we took for granted is now taking chances, but what can we do??


peace
cal

[Predictable Bob]

I hate to rain on your parade guys but statistically there's no real difference in child abduction/assault rates now than there was 50 years ago ...

The difference is (Quite rightly) the amount of publicity the offences get - now if we started cutting bits off the offenders when they were convicted I'm pretty sure that the number of offences would decline sharply !

[Spoggle]

I hate to rain on your parade guys but statistically there's no real difference in child abduction/assault rates now than there was 50 years ago ...

The difference is (Quite rightly) the amount of publicity the offences get - now if we started cutting bits off the offenders when they were convicted I'm pretty sure that the number of offences would decline sharply !

With you 100% mate. No more wierdo pervs around now than years ago, but because of the way the media is today we get to hear more about it. Not only that but in the past when they got caught they locked em up and threw the key away, but in these days of cut backs, well. Just costs too much to lock em up. Aftre all we have all those dangerous expense fiddlers to lock up. Now I'm not saying that people who rob the public purse shouldnt be punished, but what danger do they pose? Give em community servce so that they can be seen by the public getting there just deserts.

Spoggle

[JUDWAK]

this world is feked up
it all ways has been
yes its got worse in the last 10 years or so
but maybe its allways been bad
we just was not awake to it
we now catch more criminals than ever before

this so called civilised society we have made over the last few thousend years
aint so civilised if you ask me

a lot of people are still animals
they will all ways feel the need to suppress others for what ever needs they wish

in a civilised society were that sick sort of thing was only banned in 1909
100 years to stamp out this sick act is not long enoght to stamp it out
its still breed into some familiys 100 years is not many generations is it

in my opinion its getting more wide spread because we are alowing these people to carry on liveing
end of

[flounderbout]

With you 100% mate. No more wierdo pervs around now than years ago, but because of the way the media is today we get to hear more about it. Not only that but in the past when they got caught they locked em up and threw the key away, but in these days of cut backs, well. Just costs too much to lock em up.

I suspect that is not actually the case either. The sentencing for many crimes and especially sexual offences is much tougher than in the past - plus which more advanced forensic techniques mean a lot fewer such crimes go unpunished.

I happen to agree with you on the expense fiddling thing (I despise them, but think they would have been better off cleaning streets for a year), but there were plenty baying for their blood and demanding prison not so long ago, so it just goes to show the courts can't win.

As for the rise in the threat of stranger abduction, as Bob says it is simply not real. It is just perceived because of the media attention. What people also forget is that the overwhelming majority of sexual crimes, particularly against children, are not by strangers, but by those closest - fathers, siblings and grandfathers. So if you are really concerned about children being the subject of sexual assault, then don't leave them alone with pops, or uncle johnny. And for those who are thinking "not my uncle johnny", that's what all the other families thought too.

None of this helps people who are actually living near a convicted sex offender however. It must be deeply upsetting. The problem as ever is how to balance the likelihood (or here unlikelihood) of something terrible happening with the awful consequences of that thing (and I agree the consequences are too horrific to bear thinking about). The problem is that the emotional pull of the latter is far stronger than the rational pull of the former.

[gwh200]

is it also safe to assume, that "years ago" the population was a lot lower. If you had a 30 million population, and 100 offences per million(for example), then doubling the population, might not neccesarily double the offence rate, but would definitely increase it?

[Surf01]

Problem is also that many yhears ago your parents woudl nto believe you or it was ignore as a child's imagination!
About 10 years ago my mate found out that his daughter who is now in her late twenties had been seually abused by his best friend. He then went looking for the former best friend with a shotgun and a 9mm pistol who lived about 1000 miles away.
His current wife phoned the police as she knew my mate woudl have killed the former friend. Luckily the police caught up with him half way there and persuaded him to stop and disarmed me. This was in South Africa. Anyway the former friend is now in jail. Apparently other girls came forwad and testified.

[Mork]

It’s a messed up world.
But as said, it always has been.

I think one of the problems now is the internet.
50 years ago the sick of mind might become reclusive stay at homes, they might be thought of as weird and creepy, but probably not do anything apart from be odd.
They would probably have felt a sense of shame and wrongness about themselves, and for the most part get through life without causing any harm or meeting anyone else with the same sickness.

But these days they can fuel their sick obsession with the internet, they can find kindred spirits who support each other and say it's OK to want these things.
They can find images and read ideas and instruction on how to abduct, and find people who encourage them to, and then share pictures.

I think there's something fundamentally wrong with sentencing guidelines.
People with these predilections who aren't able to control themselves should be locked up for life – or perhaps just removed discretely from society without fanfare.

There are no mitigating circumstances for an adult to abuse a child, and someone who could do such a thing should be kept away from children for ever after. End of.


Sorry, that was a bit heavy.
My normal jovial silliness shall resume shortly.

[flounderbout]

I think one of the problems now is the internet.
50 years ago the sick of mind might become reclusive stay at homes, they might be thought of as weird and creepy, but probably not do anything apart from be odd.

They would probably have felt a sense of shame and wrongness about obsessing about 4x4s, and for the most part get through life without causing any harm or meeting anyone else with the same sickness.

But these days they can fuel their sick obsession with the internet, they can find kindred spirits who support each other and say it's OK to want bigger tyres and a suspension lift.

They can find images and read ideas and instruction on how to fit winch bumpers and rock sliders, and convert their trucks to V8s

Completely agree...

[Predictable Bob]

Completely agree...

Damned weirdo's get everywhere !!

[flounderbout]

But it is OK to want bigger tyres right?