copyright

[JUDWAK]

anyone out there delt with copyrights
iam trying to get a price but they mainly say a one time payment then a payment every year to keep it?
is there no way to get copyrights and only pay once out right?

any one deal in this field?

[Surfer Ross]

I deal with copyright via the record companies for our CDs. What is it you want to find out about?

Patents, copyright and Intellectual Property protection are all very different.

[JUDWAK]

wicked thanks mate
iam makeing something were no 2 objects are not the same
each peace is a one off
i supporse it comes under artwork
i want to copyright my name and not the objects
so every object i stamp with my name is copyrighted
if that makes any sence
i dont want to say too much on here its too public

[JUDWAK]

the thing iam after is can i pay for it out right or will i have to pay every year?

[Apache]

iam makeing something were no 2 objects are not the same

Poor quality control?

[Surfer Ross]

George,

You're looking to register a trademark rather than a copyright. You can't copyright a name because it's entirely possible that there are other people who share your name. Trademark is a once only payment as far as I know.

[JUDWAK]

thanks mate i think i understand
do you know what it costs?

[JUDWAK]

Poor quality control?

realy poor quality control
i cant be asked to make them look the same

[biosurf]

it's entirely possible that there are other people who share your name.

Nah, there can be only one Judwak.

More like outlander than highlander but the principal is the same

[Surfer Ross]

thanks mate i think i understand
do you know what it costs?

I'll look into it for you mate.

[JUDWAK]

they is only one me
and my name is registed
not that there is an offical regiister for it just companys that help with the legal side of things
its the same with copyrights
there is no offical register just companys that keep legal records
but in the event of some bugger nicking a name or object and calling it they own work

its best to get these things done
rather than use the post an envalop to your self methard thats never stud in court anyway

[JUDWAK]

I'll look into it for you mate.

thanks mate
i realy do need a price for a buy out right payment please
thank ya very much mate

[flounderbout]

Judwak, it so happen that oi kno a little bit about IP rights. http://www.8newsquare.co.uk/Members_of_Chambers (goto members, Henry Ward).

If you are producing artwork, then you own the copyright in the artwork as soon as it is recorded. There are no formalities, and there is no charge, whether one-off or at all. Provided you can show that you were the author and the work is original (i.e. not copied), then you have protectable rights. You may also own design rights (Community or UK) in the work in addition or alternatively (depending on the nature of the work in question).
People sometimes suggest sending yourself a copy of the work recorded delivery or similar (and leaving the envelope unopened) - this is just a simple means of proving should you ever have to that the work was created at the time that you claim, but it is not necessary - particularly if the work is created or stored digitally it is usually easy to prove the date of creation, and there is rarely an important dispute about it. Provided you are creating the works yourself (i.e. not as an employee) there is unlikely to be an issue about ownership either.

Trade marks are rather different - they protect business names and brands. It would be easy enough to register a name like Judwak (since I very much doubt there is anything similar on the register - I haven't looked though). Common names can be rather harder to register depending on how widely used they are, and they can be of lesser use, particularly against people who trade who happen to share the name. Trade marks are relatively cheap to apply for and register if you do all the work yourself (an application is about £300 from memory, although I don't usually get involved in that side of things), although renewal fees must be paid every 5 years. It is easier to get a trade mark agent to do it for you, but you are immediately talking a lot more (probably anywhere between £500 and several thousand, depending on how complex the application becomes).

If you are concerned with artistic works though I would not waste money registering a tm for your name - your concern would (I assume, although with no details it is hard to say) be people copying the works in question, not using your name. And if they did use your name in order to suggest that works they had created were yours, then you would probably have a good case in passing off which requires no registration in any event.
If you were to give more details then I could probably be more help - feel free to PM on a confidential basis if you want.

If you want to understand the various rights and how they work a little bit better, then I recommend a look at http://www.ipo.gov.uk/ - it has fairly easy to understand sections regarding trade marks and copyright as well as various other Intellectual Property rights.

That'll be a grand please...

[Apache]

I remember when Vicki ran her footwear business and we took our own pics of paid models. There was one or two sellers on eBay who used our images without our consent. I looked into it and it turns out whether I formally copyright them or not, the image rights automatically belong to the photographer.

So I told them to desist or I'd send the boys round.

[w33lerd33ler]

iv got a story thats 'kind of' related to this sort of thing...

I used to manage a computer shop last yr till i opened my owned recently. The fella who owned it had a major fall out with his cousin after he opened another computer shop (with a different name) on the same street a few hundred yards down the rd 6 months later.
After a yr or so his cousins shop got a bad name for itself sending out shoddy work and the shop i worked for built a very good reputation (when i started there i might add) and people from all over would come to us, so much so that the gaffer could then afford to open a second shop in Sunderland city centre.
We then found out from a passing punter that the shop down the rd (his cousin) had started trading under EXACTLY the same name as the shop where i worked, even down to the same shop sign, slogan, font and colour! in an effort to try and poach work. the only difference was that he had cleverly changed the end of the name to a 'Z' instead of a 'S'... i wont say the real shop name but say it was called 'nutters', the other lad would have called his nutterz. (if you get what i mean!) so people looking for our shop on the same street would come to his first and think that must be us, and this did actualy work aswell coz he did steal a lot of trade!...

My gaffer went off it coz he had paid to copyright protect his name but when he rang he was told that even though the shop sign, name and website were all idenetical in everyway apart from the 'Z' there was nothing could be done coz he wasnt actually using his name! compleltey shocking! so all that money down the drain...

so moral is, theres always sneaky ways around copyrights so is it really worth paying the stupid fees to do it!

sorry for the long post