Telly rant...

[Albannach]

I know some of you will find this hard to believe, but I just had a rant (2 actually) at the telly.

If I was filmed, then that film was broadcast on national TV, breaking into a college or government building; do you think I'd be sitting here typing this just now?

No, you're right; I'd be in jail with a sore face. What's so feckin special about students?

[yoshie]

They don't do it up here lol, canny really see some Glasgow copper getting let loose with a shield and a baton and not having the best shift of his year

[slobodan]

I've just been reading about the Brutal Police

[stormforce]

I watched that on the news and couldn't believe the police were stood back watching them smash shop windows

[tonupteabag]

I watched that on the news and couldn't believe the police were stood back watching them smash shop windows

It's against police policy to get involved in the situation until the health and safety officer has been in and deemed it safe, so that officers don't cut themselves on the broken glass, it would insure that the sickness leave would not be up by 90% the following week......
Heres a thought we have agencies for every type of job yet i have never seen one for the police....funny that?????

[Vultch]

Students grants... the country desperately needs another 10,000 media students to help the economy recover...
Perhaps if grants were allocated on the countries economic needs, engineering, physics, chemists etc the would be enough money to fund university education...

[flounderbout]

I know some of you will find this hard to believe, but I just had a rant (2 actually) at the telly.

If I was filmed, then that film was broadcast on national TV, breaking into a college or government building; do you think I'd be sitting here typing this just now?

No, you're right; I'd be in jail with a sore face. What's so feckin special about students?

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-201011103243/

I thought this pretty much summed it up...

[Predictable Bob]

Can't argue with the bulk of this BUT ...

The bean counters and the like have created a situation where a lot of careers require a degree to get onto the first rung. If you start a degree course after Sep 2011 then you're looking at needing loans in excess of £50k to cover tuition and accommodation alone.

If your subsequent career is in the public sector then it'll be a good few years before your salary exceeds £21k and you start paying back the loan - by which time the loan will have grown significantly ...

So basically they're screwed and you wonder why they're kicking off ?

I don't condone the violence and destruction but I can understand how they feel.

My three are just receiving their interview notifications and offers for starting in Sep 2011 - I pray they get the places then cos if they have to wait a year they'll stand little chance of buying a house until they reach 50

[DaveHMS]

Complaints of 'Kettling' (a very emotive description of containment) schoolchildren - WTF were schoolchildren doing on a demo midweek, during the day?
A diabetic student complaining about being unable to access food because of police containment action - surely he knew the rules of engagement before taking part in the demo?
IMHO, there are occasions when violent protest is called for - student funding is not one.
The protesting students must face the fact that there is no tax payers cash left to fund their further education - the gravey-train has hit the buffers. All the protesting in the world ain't gonna alter that fact.

What a grumpy ol' fcuker I am!

[che2318]

i know quite a few students who manage to have accomodation cheap and also work alot alongside study to have money for tuition.

i wonder how many of these students complain about the funding but then go on to study a stupid degree?!

higher education is an added extra, you want it, you pay for it.


as you moaning about the lib dems breaking their promise.......the lib dems are not in power, the conservatives and lib dems have shared power which means there must be compromise.

do they realise that those damages will come out of the public purse? the very said purse that funds education?

[Predictable Bob]

I'll agree that the coffers are low BUT the last place you want to cut is education - if they ain't able to work then there won't be any money to pay YOUR pension and provide all the services that you'll be needing in a few years time !

Over the last few years there has been a systematic increase in the minimum entry qualification for large numbers of careers. If the kids can't afford to go to uni those careers will suffer massive shortages and then whichever government is in power will open the doors to let in loads of 'qualified' job seekers from overseas ...

PS
Did you notice the large numbers of people on the fringes of the demo that were patently NOT of school/university age - rentamob has been attending and instigating violence at demos in this country since the 60's

[Vultch]

i wonder how many of these students complain about the funding but then go on to study a stupid degree?!

higher education is an added extra, you want it, you pay for it.


as you moaning about the lib dems breaking their promise.......the lib dems are not in power, the conservatives and lib dems have shared power which means there must be compromise.

do they realise that those damages will come out of the public purse? the very said purse that funds education?

Agree fully... chose your degree with a view to actually getting a job / career, why should the tax payer be lumbered with paying for useless courses..

[Hazzo]

No-one should pay tuition fees, if you can pass exams to get into university education should be free through the taxes already paid by your forebears, why should university education be available only to those families who can afford it, its bad enough being governed by the rich but to be suppressed at every turn by them is criminal.

I, my father and all my family have worked and paid taxes, my eldest has six months left till graduation, my two others will also qualify for uni places, one this year and another in two years time, they need a 50 grand debt like a hole in the head but without the relevant qualifications in their chosen fields they'll either end up unemployed or slaves to minimum wage with top up benefits, which equates to wasted talent.

The majority here comment as if they were born into wealth, typical Tory, but reading your posts I'm led to believe you work for a living, in my view this makes you working class, you've paid for the children's education and should be standing by them in protest at the lies of this and every government we've suffered since parliament began, we're all expendable serfs for the aristocracy so lets not keep those who are prepared to work hard for a degree down by placing them in debt for life to corrupt governments.

All immigrants and foreigners should have to pay the full costs, but lets give our kids the breaks they're entitled to, we've already paid. H

[Paul1566]

What ever happened to apprenticeships ?

You got one and the company payed for your further education.
At the end they had a highly skilled worker that they basically owned and they had a job in the profession they where taught.

Now days they all get on the university ladder, and how many come away with degree's they actually use ?

My mate did a degree in horticulture, whats he doing now, training fat birds to do agility with thier dogs.....
Another guy had a degree in law and some other shite and ended up working in kew gardens....
Our sales manager went and only came back with a degree in stella can stacking and spliff rolling..... dropped out half way....

I knew another lady had a degree in zoology and psychology, used to joke where the feck do i find a girrafe in need of councilling....

We need more indians not chiefs.......

Wish i had followed me dad and become a plumber........

Saying that bet you need a degree to do that now....

[Chris W]

I count myself lucky, I came out of Uni with only £8k of debt in 1998 (all paid off now). I went back to study for a Masters a few years later and most of the guys I was studying with were looking at £21k of debt (2003).

I quite agree that tech degrees should be state funded to encourage people to do them, but you'd have to start teaching science properly in school first.