Using two stroke oil in a KZN185

[stormforce]

Dude, seriously, you worry me sometimes!

only sometimes

[slobodan]

I added 2 stroke to my drugs for a smoother and more efficient high. Think I may have overdone it.

To the bong water?
Did it cut down on blue smoke?

[BigBobE]

I added 2 stroke to my drugs for a smoother and more efficient high. Think I may have overdone it.

You related to George by any chance???

[BUSHWHACKER]

You related to George by any chance???

His dealer?

[Apache]

Oh, and the way in which "The engine-research centre of well known German car manufacurers" tend to publicise the results of "long term tests of diesel additives" is to tell some guy who can't spell on the internet, and then let him spread the word.

Saves on costs in these recessionary times.

I like the cut of your jib! Almost as cynical as me

[Team Japan]

for a fuller explanation of the somewhat unusual tenets of homeopathy, I recommend Ben Goldacre's Bad Science.

I'm about 4/5 of the way through that book myself! Excellent, well worth a read. Especially when he rips into "Dr" Gillian McKeith!

Andy

[Calos]

So to paraphrase:

The two-stroke is a myth, and more likely someone giving you the one-stroke.

oO

peace
cal

[Albannach]

So to paraphrase:

The two-stroke is a myth, and more likely someone giving you the one-stroke.

Unless one actually has a two stroke diesel, from whence all this shite stems.

[western uk]

You guy's wanna Google it and have a look, and then make your mind up. Not keep on poo pooing it.

Could be a good thing ?

[Albannach]

You guy's wanna Google it and have a look, and then make your mind up. Not keep on poo pooing it.

Could be a good thing ?

We poo poo it because it is poo.

[Apache]

The addition of a few microgrammes of snake oil in a tank of diesel helps.

[Predictable Bob]

... the purveyors of snake oil

[flounderbout]

You guy's wanna Google it and have a look, and then make your mind up. Not keep on poo pooing it.

Could be a good thing ?

This is why the internet is can be a very dangerous thing, unless you actually trouble to apply some critical thought to what is being published on it.

If I dream up some new theory called Electroquarkhydration therapy, and publish a stream of blogs about it, no matter how illiterate and unscientific, then I become the de facto Google authority on it. The only people who pay any attention to it will be credulous types, who then refer back to my blog, and before you know it a bunch of old shite has gathered a host of reference material all accessible by Google, and all referring to me. Suddenly a Google search throws up what is apparently a body of material, which gives credence to the original. And so it goes on.

The same goes for conspiracy theories, and a lot of complementary medicine theories.

Contrast published works in journals etc, where my ridiculous theory would never be published in the first place, and if it were it would immediately be rubbished by serious contributors.

This doesn't mean that the internet can't be a useful resource. It just means you have to be infinitely more sceptical of material you find there.

If the source is not credible, then find a proper source and re-evaluate.

"Yamaha-fan" is scientifically illiterate.

Scientifically:
"The 2-stroke oil will be absorbed by the diesel (emulsion)" Boll ocks. Emulsion means precisely that two liquids are intermixed without absorption.

"the emission values as measured are by far better with use of 2-stroke oil than without"
O rly?
So let me get this right. The Sulphur in Diesel Fuels Regulations were introduced to reduce emissions, and in particular soot emissions related to sulphur content in diesel. But by adding a sulphur rich additive to your low sulphur fuel, you can reduce the emissions that arise from err, sulphur rich fuel?
Riiiigggghhhht.

It is possible that the European Union hates you, and as a result has imposed some emission-reducing measures that actually increase emissions and kill your engine to boot.

Meanwhile the engine manufacturers hate you, because they have no interest in reliability and customer satisfaction, instead they just want your engine to die as soon as possible so you have to get a new one.

Oh and the fuel additive manufacturers hate you so much that instead of selling a diesel additive that has all these wonderful effects and which would be very cheap for them, thus resulting in huge profits, instead they forgo those profits just so that you suffer. Mwahaha.

Or it is just about possible, at a stretch, that the whole thing is a load of arse.

And that is why every forum which mentions the thing (Ford, Landrover, here etc etc) recycles the same claims, in similar words, and have all quite obviously originated from the same scientifically illiterate source. And why they all cite the same "long term tests", not one of which tests you will find anywhere.


Of course one option is to make your mind up based on nothing more than a whim, and then accept everything you can find that supports your arbitrary view, whilst rejecting everything that goes against it. Western UK.

After all, that's what the Daily Mail does.

[biosurf]

I'm about 4/5 of the way through that book myself! Excellent, well worth a read. Especially when he rips into "Dr" Gillian McKeith!

Andy

Finished it a couple of months ago. Love the book.

[BUSHWHACKER]

Electroquarkhydration therapy.
You can't claim that one, I've got an ology in it!