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  • Rustinho
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    Originally posted by puddlesurfer View Post
    I think the term Jeep came from General Purpose (GP) vehicle GP= GEEP/JEEP
    American military acronym - but I could be wrong
    A quick google turns this up, and I seem to recall Stephen Fry describing something similar on an episode of QI once...

    There are many stories about where the name "jeep" came from. The following two reasons for the name "jeep", although they make interesting and memorable stories, aren't quite accurate.

    1. Probably the most popular notion has it that the vehicle bore the designation "GP" (for "General Purpose"), which was phonetically slurred into the word jeep. R. Lee Ermey, on his television series Mail Call, disputes this, saying that the vehicle was designed for specific duties, was never referred to as "General Purpose," and that the name may have been derived from Ford's nomenclature referring to the vehicle as GP (G for government-use, and P to designate its 80-inch-wheelbase). "General purpose" does appear in connection with the vehicle in the WW2 TM 9-803 manual, which describes the vehicle as "... a general purpose, personnel, or cargo carrier especially adaptable for reconnaissance or command, and designated as 1/4-ton 4x4 Truck", and the vehicle is also designated a "GP" in TM 9-2800, Standard Military Motor Vehicles, 1 September, 1943, but whether the average jeep-driving GI would have been familiar with either of these manuals is open to debate.
    2. Many, including Ermey, claim that the more likely origin is a reference to a character from the Thimble Theater (Popeye) comic strip known as Eugene the Jeep. Eugene the Jeep was a dog-like character who could walk through walls and ceilings, climb trees, fly, and just about go anywhere it wanted; it is thought that soldiers at the time were so impressed with the new vehicle's versatility that they informally named it after the character.

    The manuals quoted were published in 1943. The character of "Eugene the Jeep" was created in 1936. The first common use of the term "jeep" predates both of these by roughly 20 years. It was during World War I that soldiers used "jeep" as a slang word for new recruits as well as new, unproven vehicles. This is according to a history of the vehicle for an issue of the U.S. Army magazine, Quartermaster Review, which was written by Maj. E. P. Hogan. He went on to say that the slang word had these definitions as late as the start of World War II.

    The term would eventually be used as slang to refer to an airplane, a tractor used for hauling heavy equipment, and an autogyro. When the first models of the jeep came to Camp Holabird for tests, the vehicle didn't have a name yet. Therefore the soldiers on the test project called it a jeep. Civilian engineers and test drivers who were at the camp during this time were not aware of the military slang term. They most likely were familiar with the character of Eugene the Jeep and therefore began to credit Eugene with the name. The vehicle had many other nicknames at this time such as Peep, Pygmy, and Blitz-Buggy although because of the Eugene association, Jeep stuck in people's minds better than any other term.

    Words of the Fighting Forces by Clinton A. Sanders, a dictionary of military slang, published in 1942, in the library at The Pentagon gives the following definition:

    "Jeep: A four-wheel drive car of one-half to one-and-one-half ton capacity for reconnaissance or other army duty. A term applied to the bantam-cars, and occasionally to other motor vehicles (U.S.A.) in the Air Corps, the Link Trainer; in the armored forces, the 1/2 ton command car. Also referred to as 'any small plane, helicopter, or gadget."

    The term went into widespread public use because of a syndicated news column written by Kathryn Hillyer who was working for the Washington Daily News. Hillyer had been assigned to cover a publicity stunt and Senate photo op where the jeep was presented to the public. The Army brought a jeep to the Capitol in order for it to climb the front steps of the building and show off the vehicle's power. When test driver Irving "Red" Housman was asked by a bystander "What is this thing?" he responded simply with "It's a jeep." Hillyer heard this and used the name in her column which was printed around the country.
    Last edited by Rustinho; 24 September 2010, 19:38.

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  • puddlesurfer
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    I think the term Jeep came from General Purpose (GP) vehicle GP= GEEP/JEEP
    American military acronym - but I could be wrong

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  • madmanc
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    Originally posted by Wolfracer View Post
    Just like this, only its a week older now...

    LOL Mine used to look like that until i started to off road it.....

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  • Wolfracer
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    Originally posted by Treadlox View Post
    Its nice never mind what you call it. And if I`m speeking generally I would refer to mine as a jeep, I did`nt realise it was an offending issue. I thought only Land Rover owners touchy

    As a point of interest though, does jeep stand for Just Enough Essential Parts or is that an urban myth?
    Hope my Dad doesn't read this! He's had a CJ7, Wrangler, curently got a Cherokee sport, and he refers to all of these correctly as "Jeeps". However if he was to hear someone call a LR or pickup a Jeep or any other 4x4 as a Jeep, well, all hell would break loose!

    And imho, LR owners just be greatful for the upgrade in status if their trucks get called Jeeps! As has been said, with a decent lift these are formidable off road machines.

    As for the acronym, I've never heard that before, and having had JEEPS thrust down my throat since 1982, If there was anything in it I "might" have heard it before?!?

    But more importantly, my surf does look nice doesn't it!

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  • Wolfracer
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    Just for you Popeye!

    Originally posted by POPEYE View Post
    Looks good but what does the other side look like?
    Just like this, only its a week older now...

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  • Treadlox
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    Its nice never mind what you call it. And if I`m speeking generally I would refer to mine as a jeep, I did`nt realize it was an offending issue. I consider myself punished.



    As a point of interest though, does jeep stand for Just Enough Essential Parts or is that an urban myth?

    Tony.
    Last edited by Treadlox; 24 September 2010, 12:36. Reason: Hmm re thimk

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  • dieselboy
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    Originally posted by Rustinho View Post
    A Surf certainly isn't a "Jeep®" or a "Jeep" but it could reasonably be described as a "jeep" (not that I would choose to do so personally).

    In taking the stance of Albanach -No it cannot

    Jeep (according to dictionary.com purely so I can copy & paste it)

    1.
    a small, rugged military motor vehicle having four-wheel drive and a 1 / 4 -ton capacity: widely used by the U.S. Army during and after World War II.

    2.
    a similar vehicle used by civilians.
    This can only be in reference to the manufacturer / make - Jeep.

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  • dieselboy
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    Originally posted by yoshie View Post
    And what a jeep, stick a 6" skyjacker kit on that, some 35s, and watch it leave your surf playing in the campsite.

    4.0ltr petrol and lockers, lovely machine
    No doubt!

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  • Rustinho
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    Originally posted by dieselboy View Post
    Entire Surf, or, Entire Hilux, or, Entire Toyota, or Entire truck. Not Jeep!

    This is a Jeep:
    A Surf certainly isn't a "Jeep®" or a "Jeep" but it could reasonably be described as a "jeep" (not that I would choose to do so personally).

    Jeep (according to dictionary.com purely so I can copy & paste it)

    1.
    a small, rugged military motor vehicle having four-wheel drive and a 1 / 4 -ton capacity: widely used by the U.S. Army during and after World War II.

    2.
    a similar vehicle used by civilians.

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  • yoshie
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    Originally posted by dieselboy View Post
    Entire Surf, or, Entire Hilux, or, Entire Toyota, or Entire truck. Not Jeep!

    This is a Jeep:
    And what a jeep, stick a 6" skyjacker kit on that, some 35s, and watch it leave your surf playing in the campsite.

    4.0ltr petrol and lockers, lovely machine

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  • gwh200
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    And this is what happens when you leave a land rover near the sea.

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  • dieselboy
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    Originally posted by Treadlox View Post
    entire jeep for that.

    Cheers Tony.
    Entire Surf, or, Entire Hilux, or, Entire Toyota, or Entire truck. Not Jeep!

    This is a Jeep:

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  • POPEYE
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    Looks good but what does the other side look like?

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  • Treadlox
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    Can I just say I have come back to this thread after a cpouple of days because I love the look of the wheel tyre combo, entire jeep for that.

    Cheers Tony.

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  • GBV8
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    Now that's the standard of finish i'm thinking about!

    Thats one cool lookin Surf dude

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