silversmiths

[JUDWAK]

any one here into silversmiths
i have an old stamp one of those that they use to stamp in blood or wax to seal it shut
i think they called em seals
what i want to know is
the batman family who were silversmiths i have one of the rare stamps of the batman hallmark
how rare is it i know it only ran for like 6 years
and i think it could be a batman seal iam not sure but its looking like its would say R.B in fancey lettering
but how rare is it to have one of these
batman silver stuff is collectable
PB AB - Peter & Ann Bateman spoons are worth selling atm
if any of you get the chance read up on the below link about paul storr
some of you lot may be sat on thousands of pounds and not even know about it
http://www.antiquesilverspoons.co.uk...rs.htm#Bateman

[JUDWAK]

any guess to what this says?







thats its hallmark if any of you lot have owt with this on its not just silver ya know

[puddlesurfer]

To get a better idea what it says try melting a coloured candleand stamping it.

PB will be the makers mark, not it's hallmark

PB could be:

PB under a crown (Peter Bennett [ L ] ) 18th c./1st half
PB over AB (Peter & Ann Bateman [ L ]) end 18th c.
PB over AB over WB (Peter Anne and William Bateman [ L ]) end 18th c/beginning 19th c.
PB over IB (Peter & Jonathan Bateman [ L ] ) 18th c./2nd half

although from the pics its doesn't seem to be any of them - on the other side is a mark, what is it? that may be the hall mark, or age/city mark

[JUDWAK]

its one of the rare marks but whats so rare about it?
and how rare is rare?

[puddlesurfer]

By the way, I'm no expert - it's just I was looking up a slver fob watch for my dad the other day - J W Benson from 1884 - nice (pity I broke it when i was about 10)!

[JUDWAK]

By the way, I'm no expert - it's just I was looking up a slver fob watch for my dad the other day - J W Benson from 1884 - nice (pity I broke it when i was about 10)!

i use a guy out of the add mag he is brill with watches he collects gold pens
realy nice honest guy

[puddlesurfer]

Hi George, I can't make out any detail, have a look here:

http://www.silvercollection.it/englishsilvermarks1.html

very informative website, I found the hallmarks for my dads watch in minutes.

[puddlesurfer]

I'm guessing the middle one is a lion passant, can you see any letters? are they capital or lower case?

Is that an A on the right?

[JUDWAK]

yes its an A
check out paul storr makers mark keep an eye out for it
its worth more than gold
http://www.silvercollection.it/166INGLESEBIS.jpg
his spoons go for like 150 quid each
most the time i got these out of skips when we had skip hire
but if ya keen eyed ya can come across them in carboots for a few quid for a set