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  • #31
    patriotism is to do with ones country, not region.

    since England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are all seperate countries, kinda hard to be patriotic about the UK when it is in fact seperate countries.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by che2318 View Post
      patriotism is to do with ones country, not region.

      since England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland are all seperate countries, kinda hard to be patriotic about the UK when it is in fact seperate countries.
      it is but thats me

      iam patriotic about yorkshire first and the ukl second
      history of rotherham is my main thing
      but i have a patriotic feeling for all the uk
      wales and scottland embrace there history
      the english maily hide theres
      yorkshire we are very different apart from ower involvment in the killing of ower last true blood royal mary queen of scotts (god bless her)
      we have a rich history just like any were else
      the tikes (yorkshire clan) traded with all the nothen clans and even help in each others battels
      so yes i feel more than part of the uk
      iam a tike
      who knows his history
      am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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      • #33
        Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
        it is but thats me

        iam patriotic about yorkshire first and the ukl second
        history of rotherham is my main thing
        but i have a patriotic feeling for all the uk
        wales and scottland embrace there history
        the english maily hide theres
        yorkshire we are very different apart from ower involvment in the killing of ower last true blood royal mary queen of scotts (god bless her)
        we have a rich history just like any were else
        the tikes (yorkshire clan) traded with all the nothen clans and even help in each others battels
        so yes i feel more than part of the uk
        iam a tike
        who knows his history
        so Yorkshire is not England in your opinion?
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        • #34
          Originally posted by che2318 View Post
          so Yorkshire is not England in your opinion?
          no
          never
          its like telling a scott he is from england
          we won the war of the roses
          all the others fly ower flag around the mid countys
          all that should be owers
          walled off
          with our own goverment
          Last edited by JUDWAK; 25 June 2010, 15:53.
          am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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          • #35
            so you fly the white rose? or the Tudor Rose?

            the former being of the English royal House of York?

            'shire' coming from old English.

            Yorkshire is just as much English as the rest of England, if not more.

            where your getting this idea of it being a seperate state or land i would love to know.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by che2318 View Post
              so you fly the white rose? or the Tudor Rose?

              the former being of the English royal House of York?

              'shire' coming from old English.

              Yorkshire is just as much English as the rest of England, if not more.

              where your getting this idea of it being a seperate state or land i would love to know.
              it should be classed the same has scottland wales a part of it but seperate
              and why not?
              we have played ower own part in the history of the uk
              just has much has any of the others
              but we are called british/ english well iam non of them
              iam a true yorkshire man
              and nowt else
              now if yorkshire had a footy team i may be intrested
              if yorkshire was walled off it would be for the same reason has the scotts
              to keep us in
              am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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              • #37
                Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
                it should be classed the same has scottland wales a part of it but seperate
                and why not?
                we have played ower own part in the history of the uk
                just has much has any of the others
                but we are called british/ english well iam non of them
                iam a true yorkshire man
                and nowt else
                now if yorkshire had a footy team i may be intrested
                if yorkshire was walled off it would be for the same reason has the scotts
                to keep us in

                the war of roses was the fight for the throne of England.

                Your not English, your a Yorkshire man?

                well, im affraid to say it but you ARE English and Yorkshire is the county you are from.

                same as I am a Devonian man, from the English county of Devon.

                i think you have some misguided thoughts about what England is and what parts of England are actually not English. Wales = not English, Yorkshire = English.


                would be quite amusing though to know how you would fund your Country of York.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by che2318 View Post
                  the war of roses was the fight for the throne of England.

                  Your not English, your a Yorkshire man?

                  well, im affraid to say it but you ARE English and Yorkshire is the county you are from.

                  same as I am a Devonian man, from the English county of Devon.

                  i think you have some misguided thoughts about what England is and what parts of England are actually not English. Wales = not English, Yorkshire = English.


                  would be quite amusing though to know how you would fund your Country of York.
                  we can and do
                  feed and defend the uk from here
                  we like most have a lot of room up here
                  thats why most good things start up north


                  iam not saying that the war of the roses was are was not for
                  the fact is it was won by the tikes
                  and by that act we should have more to yorkshire that just a big place
                  we fought for what we have and all its grounds
                  so why should we not have the same right has scottland and wales?
                  after all you said it we won that war for the english thone
                  why should yorkshire not have its own
                  if you look at the history of yorkshire
                  there not a part of the uk that they did not fight on
                  and defended the places that would not fight
                  then just came home
                  arnt we nice people
                  am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
                    we can and do
                    feed and defend the uk from here
                    we like most have a lot of room up here
                    thats why most good things start up north


                    iam not saying that the war of the roses was are was not for
                    the fact is it was won by the tikes
                    and by that act we should have more to yorkshire that just a big place
                    we fought for what we have and all its grounds
                    the fight wasnt for the grounds, it was for the throne as there was debates about who should take it. the fight wasnt a fight to secure yorkshire independency.


                    so why should we not have the same right has scottland and wales?
                    Scotland and Wales had their own rulers, as England had its own rulers....(yorkshire being part of the English nation)

                    after all you said it we won that war for the english thone
                    why should yorkshire not have its own
                    you just answered your own question here. i shall re-iterate---yorkshire is English.


                    if you look at the history of yorkshire
                    there not a part of the uk that they did not fight on
                    and defended the places that would not fight
                    then just came home
                    arnt we nice people
                    alot of the English county men fought and died for England around the English nation and on Scottish soil and French soil and Welsh soil and Irish soil.

                    yorkshire was not a country helping out England...it was a county fighting for its country...ENGLAND.

                    The UK is not a country.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by che2318 View Post
                      alot of the English county men fought and died for England around the English nation and on Scottish soil and French soil and Welsh soil and Irish soil.

                      yorkshire was not a country helping out England...it was a county fighting for its country...ENGLAND.

                      The UK is not a country.
                      iam not saying they dint
                      but your now feeling patriotic about something real not footy
                      iam part of the uk fully understud
                      but iam not english
                      and will fight for yorkshire and everyone around it
                      felling patriotic comes from different places in diffrent people
                      yorkshire first always
                      the island its on second

                      if war did brake out here who is in the middle of it?
                      if ya get my meaning
                      am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
                        iam not saying they dint
                        but your now feeling patriotic about something real not footy
                        iam part of the uk fully understud
                        but iam not english
                        and will fight for yorkshire and everyone around it
                        felling patriotic comes from different places in diffrent people
                        yorkshire first always
                        the island its on second

                        if war did brake out here who is in the middle of it?
                        if ya get my meaning
                        Patritism is for ones country, not county. you may have love, pride and passion for Yorkshire but not patriotism.

                        Im patriotic for everything England does, not just football.

                        and yes, you are English, you can deny it, paint it any colour you want, but you are English. yorkshire is not a country or nation, it is a county of England.

                        I do feel sorry for your misguided illusion about yorkshire though.
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                        • #42
                          many people do feel sorry but not for me
                          i know it should be so about yorkshire
                          iam yorkshire fact
                          iam not english i may be part of england but iam a yorkshire man fact
                          and i like my yorkshire life
                          its nice here
                          i love it more that england anyway
                          coz iam a yorkshire dude
                          wonna see my birth certificate it dont say england first

                          i have it about some where
                          am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by JUDWAK View Post
                            if ya get my meaning
                            Nope, not even after 3 years.....



                            All this tribal bickering is futile, forget counties, countries, religions, its devisive and self defeating.

                            Sometimes I wish some benevolant alien dictator would come and lay the smack down on all the Governments of the world, and get rid of the lot and unite the world, then see what we could do.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by TonyN View Post
                              All this tribal bickering is futile, forget counties, countries, religions, its devisive and self defeating.

                              Sometimes I wish some benevolant alien dictator would come and lay the smack down on all the Governments of the world, and get rid of the lot and unite the world, then see what we could do.
                              Hear hear!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by TonyN View Post
                                Nope, not even after 3 years.....



                                All this tribal bickering is futile, forget counties, countries, religions, its devisive and self defeating.

                                Sometimes I wish some benevolant alien dictator would come and lay the smack down on all the Governments of the world, and get rid of the lot and unite the world, then see what we could do.
                                top bloke
                                iam up for that
                                am not die lex sick its you that cant read mate

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