i used to like my surf

[ziggy]

I wish I hadn't got married. Some marriages last, some don't; some surfs last, some don't. But hey, we all live and learn.

hey dont think mine will last much longer when she finds out how much i have spent on the surf, but then at least with the back seats down i can sleap in the surf

[wishbone]

A clean, efficient rad with decent airflow (ie no row of spots in front of the grill) and a decent ATF cooler and it wont even think about overheating.

Also bear in mind the huge aircon rad in front of the radiator on the 3.0s - mine is in the bin

[Apache]

True. Best place for it!

[si tate]

True. Best place for it!

You need aircon mate, for that one week a year when it gets warmish.

[wishbone]

You need aircon mate, for that one week a year when it gets warmish.

That'll be the week you drive the surf down to the med then....

[ziggy]

Anyone will be upset about spending that sort of money on a new car, but if you'd look on here or anywhere you'll find 1500kg is the max towing weight for US 4Runners, with UK ones being the same or 2200kg according to some dealers.

You bought a duff truck, don't blame the truck! lol.

If you want to legally tow over 2200kg, you need a LandCrusier or a 3rd Gen, or if you want to use the Surf fit a AFT cooler, this cures all the overheating issues when towing assuming your rad isn't blocked like lots are. They only overheat when towing because the hot AFT fluid goes through the Rad and heats the coolant up just as it leaves the rad. Also check the Viscous fan is driving properly, if the fluid is old/leaked it won't be pulling air through the rad properly.

They are great trucks, you have to buy one from somewhere, it doesn't matter where you get it from, used cars are always a lottery.

(I would have done your head for £1200.... )

Hi yea im only towing an ifor williams 505 horse trailer with horse total of 1400kg thanks for your advice how do i check the fan is working ok .
i would have gone to you for the head but too far away im in shropshire

[ziggy]

My mate had exactly the same problem "up hills" never had it over heat since fitting the cooler & that was 6 months ago & he tow's a twin axle 21 foot caravan & he says, i quote "it doesn't even break a sweet now"

ok thanks i will take a look at that

[Apache]

Thats why you have electric windows

On a serious note, if I was buying a Surf for hard work, I'd consider getting a thicker multi cored rad made up. Not a bad insurance policy against a cracked head.

[yoshie]

I have a manual 3rd gen tows great

On a serious note why dont you bin the air con rad and fit a large elec pusher fan on the front

[ziggy]

Anyone will be upset about spending that sort of money on a new car, but if you'd look on here or anywhere you'll find 1500kg is the max towing weight for US 4Runners, with UK ones being the same or 2200kg according to some dealers.

You bought a duff truck, don't blame the truck! lol.

If you want to legally tow over 2200kg, you need a LandCrusier or a 3rd Gen, or if you want to use the Surf fit a AFT cooler, this cures all the overheating issues when towing assuming your rad isn't blocked like lots are. They only overheat when towing because the hot AFT fluid goes through the Rad and heats the coolant up just as it leaves the rad. Also check the Viscous fan is driving properly, if the fluid is old/leaked it won't be pulling air through the rad properly.

They are great trucks, you have to buy one from somewhere, it doesn't matter where you get it from, used cars are always a lottery.

(I would have done your head for £1200.... )

hey i aint blaming the truck you buy am import from japan who knows where its been what part of japan it was used in was it a hire vehicle company vehicle hey they aint gonna send the best to uk are they

[ziggy]

I have a manual 3rd gen tows great

On a serious note why dont you bin the air con rad and fit a large elec pusher fan on the front

good point but i think i might sell it and buy a third gen

[ziggy]

My 3.0L 3rd gen tows my caravan with no problem what so ever but my friend who owns a 3.0L 2nd gen had over heating problems when towing until he fit an oil cooler off a shogun.

Im not slagging 2nd gens but for towing a 3rd gen is much better.

wish i had gone for the third gen the second seen far too prone to overheating head probs ect

[Albannach]

wish i had gone for the third gen the second seen far too prone to overheating head probs ect

A couple of years ago, 3.0L owners were scoffing at 2.4L owners because the 3.0L's weren't blowing heads. Now see what's happening. Who's to say turd gen's don't have an Achilles heel too?

[ziggy]

25mpg.....I can dream.

And you can retro fit a transmission cooler, it helps when towing.

ok but y should you have to fit a cooler on a 4x4 lol you dont have to fit one on a land rover ok i know they are crap anyway i had 4 of them lol

[TonyN]

yeah, the hair dryer socket might have dodgy connections....