The Moon

[dieselboy]

no they dont - and there are some internet reports about it being several degrees out of inclination . Is niribu comming ?? i hope not

Regards,

alex

Just googled and found this: http://www.surviving-nibiru.com/

How do you mean out of inclination? Wouldn't that mean the problem is the Earths tilt?

[dieselboy]

Apparently the moon is closer to earth than it's been for some considerable time which explains why it looks bigger ...

I heard that every year it's travelling further away... ?
Just like every year the Earth's rotation (Day / Night) has slowed down so many seconds. This would explain why people are getting fatter (joking)
And also how Andromeda galaxy is on a collision course with ours.

[dieselboy]

Cos the air is less polluted ?

No it's because it's cold. Infra-red uses heat to "look". So it needs itself to be very cold and the colder the better.
Think of this: if you had an optical telescope and were looking at say the moon at night and you were in your back garden with the garden light on you will find that the glare from the garden light is preventing you from getting a good view of the moon. The garden light is the "light pollution". Well it's this same principle with infra-red. The heat from Earth is the pollution that negatively effects the picture. I wouldnt be suprised if the telescope in the antartic was also super-cooled. When they put infra-red telescopes in space they try to keep them at absolute zero which is something like -273c. Basically nothing in space is found to be colder than that. Something to do with molecule vibration I think.

[yoshie]

No it's because it's cold. Infra-red uses heat to "look". So it needs itself to be very cold and the colder the better.
Think of this: if you had an optical telescope and were looking at say the moon at night and you were in your back garden with the garden light on you will find that the glare from the garden light is preventing you from getting a good view of the moon. The garden light is the "light pollution". Well it's this same principle with infra-red. The heat from Earth is the pollution that negatively effects the picture. I wouldnt be suprised if the telescope in the antartic was also super-cooled. When they put infra-red telescopes in space they try to keep them at absolute zero which is something like -273c. Basically nothing in space is found to be colder than that. Something to do with molecule vibration I think.

Or as we like to call it, Spring

[Apache]

its not an optical telescope

So atmospherics only affect visible light then?

Nearly all IR imagers need to be cooled in order to improve SN ratio to the point where you can see anything at all. Clear sky is very cold (near absolute zero) in IR terms, but water molecules in the atmosphere make all but small parts of the IR band pretty difficult to use over extreme distance.

[dieselboy]

So atmospherics only affect visible light then?

I honestly don't know. I only know what I know from watching programs like The Sky at Night and the like, so I know only very little. I suppose any particle of any kind will have a signature and therefore have some effect. By how much I really have no clue. However I was simply pointing out the reason behind placing the IR telescope in the coldest part of the planet.

[dieselboy]

Or as we like to call it, Spring

HAHA

[si tate]

Watch this from 22:40 see what you think.
http://www.outtheretv.com/video_programming_preview.cfm

[_cj_]

Just googled and found this: http://www.surviving-nibiru.com/

How do you mean out of inclination? Wouldn't that mean the problem is the Earths tilt?

just something i read - i'm certainly not an expert

the myth all started with the sumerians - they knew about saturn and jupiter long before western tech ever saw them - their digarams also clearly show a large planet which isnt there anymore. The outer planets were theorised by western tech by the gravitational deflection of the other planets and only once we knew they were there did we look for them and find them.

All of our known planets are roughly on the same plane - i.e. our solar system is a flat disk. However some of the planets show a gravitational deflection which so far hasnt been explained.

The hypothesis is that there is a planet ( or planet orbiting a brown dwarf that has a orbit not along this solar plane. This would not be unusual because our comets have these orbits.

So if this planet does exist and it does cross through our "normal" solar system what will happen - well anything from a bit of weirdness to absolute nightmare.

It is on the internet that the moon is out if its usual inclination - i dont know if this is true or not. The suns Cycle is very regular, over 7 years there are peaks of activity and periods of calm - this is well known - the sun has been is a period of calm for 3 years now instead of one - this is a FACT - no one knows why or what is causing it.

The latest Star maps on google have a large area blanked off in orion - apparently an error, but the same area was blanked off for MS telescope.

All a conspiracy theory - i dont know - but its a sophisticated one if it is is.
the sumerians described this planet, and the egyptians and the chinese, the mayans as we know finished their calendar in 2012.

Is it so hard to believe that these ancient civilisations knew about the planets last passing - is this information still around in small amounts - the book of revelation - noah's flood - history is littered with tales of floods and more - Graham Hancock has studied an old civilisation on the coast of India which was lost to flood - the tales of Atlantis - where do all of these come from?

Regards,

alex

[Apache]

I honestly don't know. I only know what I know from watching programs like The Sky at Night and the like, so I know only very little. I suppose any particle of any kind will have a signature and therefore have some effect. By how much I really have no clue. However I was simply pointing out the reason behind placing the IR telescope in the coldest part of the planet.

I was replying to cj

Atmospheric absorption is related to wavelength and the size of particles in the atmosphere.

[yoshie]

Fair enough, BUT! is the moon really made of cheese?

[_cj_]

I was replying to cj

Atmospheric absorption is related to wavelength and the size of particles in the atmosphere.

beejessus - i'm just a plumber - what do i kow about atmospheric wavelength???

I dont even believe half of what i read - i just think someone isnt telling me everything

regards,

alex

[murph]

Fair enough, BUT! is the moon really made of cheese?

Could always organize 4x4 meet, and find out???

[JUDWAK]

iam sure we have members that live there? dont we

[_cj_]

iam sure we have members that live there? dont we

maybe not the moon but ipswich is just as far

Regards,

alex