Definitive answer please

[fonecrusher1]

Can somebody please answer this?

When fitting a 1.5" body lift kit (Milners) to a 3rd gen, what things need to be adjusted/extended to enable me to fit the lift blocks & ensure everything is done safe & sound?

Please can I get a definitive answer, no guessing thanks.

My surf is a 3rd gen so if anyone has a lifted 3rd gen please give input.

Thanks

[TonyN]

i've made and fitted 5 or 6, does that count?

[JUDWAK]

see you need a TonyN

[TonyN]

got a link to their body lifts?

[fonecrusher1]

got a link to their body lifts?

Apologies its Milners Off road that do the lift.



http://www.milneroffroad.com/categories.asp?cID=12151

[TonyN]

ok, good the steering extension is the important bit.

that bit is the only tricky bit, its close to the exhaust and can rub

no bumper or rad brackets?

1 1/2" goes in quiet easily, there isn't much lifting to to.

Fuel filler hose reaches ok without hassle.

you need to undo the steering rod to the rack at the rubber joint, the clamp bolt and make sure it slides up splines nicely, remove the front bumper, remove the lower fan shroud

Put the 4wd shifter and gear lever in a middle position, so gaiters don't get pinched

remove the body bolts on the side youre going to lift first, loosen other side but leave bolts in

with a long plank under side steps, jack side up (if side step brackets look iffy, remove and jack with wood on sill)

don't over lift it, and jack centrally, i try to only lift it far enough so you can just slide blocks in. check stress on rad hoses and check fan while you jack.

Drop bolts through blocks and holes, reuse all rubbers and washers. you can put nuts on, but don't tighten.

Do other side the same.

Where there are solid brake pips, just gently and stretch coils to make them longer, so its not under tension, check fuel pipes and all wiring that goes from chassis to body isn't tight.

once its all resting on blocks, give body a good rock and check its all sitting nicely on blocks and do bolts up.

check the fuel filler hose hasn't slipped off

Check the handbrake cables

the fit the steering extension, check its fit against the exhaust pipe when turning, especially the spline clamp bolt.

check and free off any tight wiring and cables from inner wings to engine

then i'd fit the bumper lift brakets, and rad drop brakets, check the fan spins freely in shroud, it may be ok with out them and just the small lower part removed.

you normally then have to adjust the autobox shift rod to get the lever indents to line up, then check the 4wd lever goes in every position, you may have to remove center consol, and gaiters and cut hole in body slightly bigger but not always.

then you can put all the carpets back

dont worry about a set of unused body mounts by the rear side doors, they arnt used on surfs

ive probably missed a few little bits, but thats about it. allow whole day if doing it yourself

and you need a decent trolley jack with good lift height.

[fonecrusher1]

ok, good the steering extension is the important bit.

that bit is the only tricky bit, its close to the exhaust and can rub

no bumper or rad brackets? Nope, thats whats confusing me!!

1 1/2" goes in quiet easily, there isn't much lifting to to.

Fuel filler hose reaches ok without hassle.

you need to undo the steering rod to the rack at the rubber joint, the clamp bolt and make sure it slides up splines nicely, remove the front bumper, remove the lower fan shroud thats sounds tricky

Put the 4wd shifter and gear lever in a middle position, so gaiters don't get pinched

remove the body bolts on the side youre going to lift first, loosen other side but leave bolts in I can do that.

with a long plank under side steps, jack side up (if side step brackets look iffy, remove and jack with wood on sill) I can do that.

don't over lift it, and jack centrally, i try to only lift it far enough so you can just slide blocks in. check stress on rad hoses and check fan while you jack. I can do that.

Drop bolts through blocks and holes, reuse all rubbers and washers. you can put nuts on, but don't tighten. I can do that.

Do other side the same. I can do that.

Where there are solid brake pips, just gently and stretch coils to make them longer, so its not under tension, check fuel pipes and all wiring that goes from chassis to body isn't tight. I can do that.

once its all resting on blocks, give body a good rock and check its all sitting nicely on blocks and do bolts up. I can do that.

check the fuel filler hose hasn't slipped off I can do that.

Check the handbrake cables I can do that.

the fit the steering extension, check its fit against the exhaust pipe when turning, especially the spline clamp bolt. that sounds tricky

check and free off any tight wiring and cables from inner wings to engine I can do that.

then i'd fit the bumper lift brakets, and rad drop brakets, check the fan spins freely in shroud, it may be ok with out them and just the small lower part removed. that sounds tricky

you normally then have to adjust the autobox shift rod to get the lever indents to line up, then check the 4wd lever goes in every position, you may have to remove center consol, and gaiters and cut hole in body slightly bigger but not always.

then you can put all the carpets back I can do that.

dont worry about a set of unused body mounts by the rear side doors, they arnt used on surfs

ive probably missed a few little bits, but thats about it. allow whole day if doing it yourself

and you need a decent trolley jack with good lift height.

Tony your a legend mate.

One last thing, my surf's a manual, do I still have preform the same steps you have advised for the auto?

[charvell]

when Tony did my lift we didnt have to drop the rad. Tony had it all done in under an hour

[TonyN]

Tony your a legend mate.

One last thing, my surf's a manual, do I still have preform the same steps you have advised for the auto?

Nah, more like the Tranfer case lever, you may have to open the hole out a little, or move the gaiter fixing back about 1" if it bunches up.

On manuals you have to just play it by ear, 1 1/2" is much less hassle than 2" lift for manual trucks.

[Vagrant No2]

Question for Tony if he reads this thread again . On a few US sites they say the B pillar lift blocks are missing on 1996 3rd gens and you need to weld the mounting points to the body so you can then fit the lift blocks in ? Ever seen a 1996 Surf with missing B pillar mount points ?

[TonyN]

Question for Tony if he reads this thread again . On a few US sites they say the B pillar lift blocks are missing on 1996 3rd gens and you need to weld the mounting points to the body so you can then fit the lift blocks in ? Ever seen a 1996 Surf with missing B pillar mount points ?

yeah, all of them! hehehe.

if you want to retro fit them, 4crawler do a kit...

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/ForSale/...BodyLift46.jpg

which wouldn't be hard to copy although the poly bushes might be hard to get, or for $70, just buy.

I've never bothered fitted them for 1-1/2" B/L's, and we havn't had any trucks falling apart yet! But normally give people the extra blocks incase they want to fit them.

[Growler]

Nah, more like the Tranfer case lever, you may have to open the hole out a little, or move the gaiter fixing back about 1" if it bunches up.

On manuals you have to just play it by ear, 1 1/2" is much less hassle than 2" lift for manual trucks.

On my 2nd gen I found I just had to tun the plate holding the gaiters in around by 180 degrees and this took the pressure off when in 2nd and 4th gears.

[solent_surfer]

Hi all,
I'm going to be applying the 2'' lift to my ln185 auto and have sourced the poly bushes from an engineering company.

It seems that just because they aren't sold as a 'lift kit' that it works out a lot cheaper for the same thing.

I could do with a pointer as to the legnth of bolts required to carry out the lift if any one knows, then I can go ahead and fit my 33's

great thread btw and awsome walk thru on how to do it. Many thanks, mark

[gwh200]

What I did for a mate was remove a bolt and measure it, getti g do e 2"inches longer( the amount of his body lift). This was for a 2nd gen though, and some of the bolts were longer than others.

[solent_surfer]

good idea me thinks. thanks for the suggestion. looking forward to the end result. Just wontering how much it will affect the ride quality and power distribution with the bigger wheels

It is a 2nd gen but an auto. my last one was a 3rd gen and a manual which seemed to come really well with the bigger wheel diameter.

thanks again