Morrisons Bio Diesel

[madmanc]

Hi guys, i was in Morrisons local the other day and they are selling Bio Diesel straight from the pump.
I have Searched the Forum for any posts, but nobody seems to be saying that they have bought this stuff yet.

Question..

can it be used in my 3.0 Surf without any mods?

[RodLeach]

Sure can mate!



Anything just being sold at the pumps is good to put in.. provided its diesel in a diesel etc!

[madmanc]

Thanks for that. i will not hesitate next time then.

[KERRSURF]

How much is it?

[Albannach]

I'm sure we talked about this before, but I can't remember what the outcome was. Something in my mind says not to use it.

As for cost Alan, it's not much cheaper and it will get more expensive as the government gradually increase the tax on it. Bio is more expensive to produce than normal Diesel, the tax element is what makes it cheaper at the moment.

[Ava_Banana]

Go for it.....I get my bio from a little local supplier....still at 95.9 p per litre.

...filled to the brim from empty the other day for £50 .....which was nice

[dieselboy]

Sorry to thread hijack, but ASDAs veg oil is now back up at a record 99p per litre The cheap 66p a litre was a promo!

There is another promo which is buy two x 3-litre bottles for a fiver. This makes it to be around just over 80p per litre.

[Albannach]

~£12.98 for 20L @ Costco

[Apache]

A small word of caution.

I used to buy pump bio a few years back from a garage in Liverpool. It was about 75p/L. However, first time I used it, my fuel filter clogged about 100 miles later. Not unusual you say? OK, changed filter, no probs for a while. Filled up again in Liverpool, fuel filter clogged again a few hundred miles later.

Since then I've been filtering my own waste veg I get from a local pub and using it 50/50 with dino, or using SVO when its cheap (Costco ~ 65p/L at the mo) again mixed 50/50 and have never had a filter clog since.

[GRASSMAN]

I'm sure we talked about this before, but I can't remember what the outcome was. Something in my mind says not to use it.

As for cost Alan, it's not much cheaper and it will get more expensive as the government gradually increase the tax on it. Bio is more expensive to produce than normal Diesel, the tax element is what makes it cheaper at the moment.

Hi all,

If I remember correctly, does it not ruin the rubber type
hoses and scour the tank out of all the crap in there?
And it's all those particles that clog the filters. Changing
the hoses for rubber ones cures it after a short while.

I think so.

Gman.

[si tate]

Hi all,

If I remember correctly, does it not ruin the rubber type
hoses and scour the tank out of all the crap in there?
And it's all those particles that clog the filters. Changing
the hoses for rubber ones cures it after a short while.

I think so.

Gman.

Well if its around 96p per litre as ava says he's paying then it hardly seems worth the agro, i'd stick with derv.

[tintin]

Stolen from the AA website.................

Biodiesel
Biodiesel is manufactured from oil seed rape, waste cooking oil, palm oil etc. Modern (HDi) diesel engine pumps run at very high pressures. All diesel pumps depend on the fuel itself for lubrication – diesel is oily, biodiesel has very good lubricating properties.

However, viscosity of the fuel is critical for correct pump operation. Many pumps, especially those fitted to the latest HDi engines will not run for very long on pure biodiesel. Biodiesel has a higher water content than conventional, fossil fuel diesel so the engine oil and filters will need changing more frequently to avoid corrosion. A small amount of this water may be left in the biodiesel by the production process, but it is more likely to be absorbed by the fuel during storage. Energy content is again lower than that of conventional diesel and consequently fuel consumption is higher.

Biodiesel blends
Biodiesel is being produced in three main blends: B5, the five per cent mix with diesel, B30, the 30 per cent mix, and B100, which is pure biodiesel, containing no 'fossil fuel' diesel. B5 is already being retailed on many UK filling station forecourts, but B30 is a more specialist fuel and is not as widely available. Whichever blend, the biodiesel should meet the standards of BS14214.

Some diesel engines will run on biodiesel, but if you choose to use this fuel it is essential you check with the vehicle manufacturer that biodiesel is suitable for your car.


Couldn't find the article about how many cars they were being called out to a few months after the owners changed to Biodiesel!
Personally i would'nt go near the stuff! especially after seeing Grahams test on the stuff our friend from south london was selling!!!!!!!
(had more water in it than the thames estuary and more fat than bernard manning!!)



Hope this helps.
Alan

[madmanc]

WOW Thanks for the info guys....

Looking at the replies including TinTin's and personally being a petrol head i dont actually think that unless you wana go Green its not worth it.

DinoDiesel it will be from now on then.

Cheers for that.

[MattF]

However, viscosity of the fuel is critical for correct pump operation. Many pumps, especially those fitted to the latest HDi engines will not run for very long on pure biodiesel. Biodiesel has a higher water content than conventional, fossil fuel diesel so the engine oil and filters will need changing more frequently to avoid corrosion. A small amount of this water may be left in the biodiesel by the production process, but it is more likely to be absorbed by the fuel during storage.

Pretty much a complete and utter load of b0llocks, from what I remember. Looks like they're mixing facts from SVO, WVO and Biodiesel together.

Personally i would'nt go near the stuff! especially after seeing Grahams test on the stuff our friend from south london was selling!!!!!!!
(had more water in it than the thames estuary and more fat than bernard manning!!)

That wasn't Biodiesel. That was just the usual numpty trying to sell processed WVO and calling it Bio instead of using its proper term.

Wonder what happened to Muj? Last I recall, he was trying to flog that 'business'.

[Hilux]

A small word of caution.

I used to buy pump bio a few years back from a garage in Liverpool. It was about 75p/L. However, first time I used it, my fuel filter clogged about 100 miles later. Not unusual you say? OK, changed filter, no probs for a while. Filled up again in Liverpool, fuel filter clogged again a few hundred miles later.

Since then I've been filtering my own waste veg I get from a local pub and using it 50/50 with dino, or using SVO when its cheap (Costco ~ 65p/L at the mo) again mixed 50/50 and have never had a filter clog since.

Hi was it from a little garage in Seaforth just up from the docks, every now and then he makes a bad batch up. I stopped using him about 18 months ago.
There was another garage buy the "Metal Shredder" that was selling "RED DIESEL" mixed in with "Bio", loads of cabbies where found with red diesel in there tanks.

Regards Hilux Bob