Uh Oh We're In Trouble.......

[blackpoolsparks]

fin

[Scorpion]

Okay, I started so hopefully I'll finish. (But I doubt it!)

1. Dropped a bollock.
2. Learned a lesson.
3. Took on board all your comments.
4. Won't do it again.

Basically it was a mountain out of a molehill kind of thing which I posted as a story and as a warning.

We all make mistakes, it's learning from them that's important.

[JUDWAK]

You're only saying that because you know you're wrong.

lol
if iam wrong then i was posicuted wrongly by the law

[Sancho]

best post yet dude nice 1

You're only saying that because you know you're wrong.

[JUDWAK]

BORING!!!!!!!!!!

best post yet dude nice 1

[BUSHWHACKER]

BORING!!!!!!!!!!

[blackpoolsparks]

Correct
Trespassing is not a legal offense, its a civil matter

[Sancho]

Well, to clarify, if you do not take reasonable steps to prevent people from accessing your property, you are indeed responsible for their safety.

Equally, you cannot prosecute someone for trespassing. You can prosecute them for not leaving when asked to, and you can prosecute them for breaking an injunction that prevents them from trespassing in future.

A sign saying 'private' is not enough to prevent you from being responsible for people's safety on its own, but would certainly be a consideration. If you want to prevent people from creating a right of way (which in itself needs to go somewhere else public) over your land, you need to actively prevent access for a long period of time. This is normally achieved with a chain or gate and a correctly worded sign stating that it's not a right of way and is private land. This still doesn't prevent people from being able to access it, but does stop it from ever legally becoming a right of way.

[JUDWAK]

you must define your line of your property
end of
i have been to court over this stuff twice
its nothing to do with ignorance
i tryed to posicute over tresspass before no sign no defineing line its was no go
now if you wonder on to ower land you will be prosicuted you can define the line of what land is owers and whats not
but i suppose you lot will still keep shouting me down
but the above was said to me in court by a judge
i had to pay for her damage she did to her self on my property
and i could do nothing coz no sign no defining line to ower property
give ya something to think about in case one of these wonders hurt them selfs on your property
and its not signed or a defining line to your property
then you are resonsable for there safty
but i will be wrong there too
but again a judge told me that i payed the price
you dont own land and thats that you must hold up the law or the law cant not help you
that was all so said to me in court by a jugde
ignorace? who? makes ya wonder

[blackpoolsparks]

Its hard to describe but Ill try:
As you came out the lane you merged into his road with his house on the left and forward a bit. To continue to the other side and pick up the lane again you went on this road past his house on the left and picked up the lane again. To scidadle out of there you took a very sharp left (before his house) went down the side of it and to the main road.
There wasnt enough room to turn round without using his driveway, which was between the road and his house on the left.
I think his land has a right of way to this lane for all using it and that probably annoys him. So when we asked to use the road to get out he probably thought, sod you, and carry on down the lane.

[Sancho]

Are they forum members?

Being my normal highbrow self, the brothers in the picture are what used to be known (genuinely, scientifically) as cretins.

It comes from having a problem with your thyroid. So next time a fat person tells you that they've got a thyroid problem, feel free to call them a cretin instead.

[POPEYE]

Only the inbred ones.

Are they forum members?

[Sancho]

right, let me try and explain
the lane ended IN his front garden/ driveway/ acces to his garage and picked up again at the other side of it.

Again just enquiring, was his yard not big enough to turn around in?

[blackpoolsparks]

right, let me try and explain
the lane ended IN his front garden/ driveway/ acces to his garage and picked up again at the other side of it.
Now what was his land was questionable.
He didnt have a problem with us crossing over to pick up the start of the lane at the other side.
What the problem was that one of our party did not want to continue, rather to miss out the 2nd bit and leave the lane, via this chaps driveway/private road.
All prevoius comments still apply, I just wanted to clarify.

BTW - he wasnt that bothered and i spoke to him on the way out, storm in a tea cup springs to mind
sorry jim.

[Sancho]

maybe im confused then coz i thought they were on a track NEXT to his property and that they need to go ONTO his property to get out safely?

That's right. I'm just saying he doesn't need a sign because he walks out of his house and says "you can't go up there, it's private". Not as efficient as a sign, obviously, but just as good and almost certainly better.