Which shackles and snatchstrap?

[simonlord]

Hi all

Can anyone tell me a good place to buy a snatch strap and shackles?

I've just seen this ARB Snatch Strap, it's £44 - is that good value?

They also sell 6T Tested Bow Shackles for £5 each - seem reasonable?

I'm in the bristol area if that makes a difference.


Thanks

[RodLeach]

http://www.paddockspares.com/scp/OFF..._Recovery.html

Check there, They have procomp ones listed at half that price.

I think it might be up for more because a)its an ARB product an b)Its devon4x4!

[simonlord]

http://www.paddockspares.com/scp/OFF..._Recovery.html

Check there, They have procomp ones listed at half that price.

I think it might be up for more because a)its an ARB product an b)Its devon4x4!

Brilliant, that's more the price i was thinking of!

Anyone got one of these? I guess the 20000lb 20ft one would suit me just fine.


Cheers

Si

[biosurf]

If you are going to use a snatch strap on a Surf its a good idea to combine it with a bridle between the two front or rear recovery points.
As the loops are for tying down, not recovery they are not rated to take the kind of stress a snatch strap can put them under and if they did decide to come away whilst snatching they would fly gracefully along the direction of pull until finding something hard (the other vehicle) or soft (your good self / bystanders/ dog) and just as gracefully imbedding itself.

Using a bridle spreads the load and makes this much less likely to happen.

Lots use these with no problem but better safe than sorry and all that.

[simonlord]

If you are going to use a snatch strap on a Surf its a good idea to combine it with a bridle between the two front or rear recovery points.
As the loops are for tying down, not recovery they are not rated to take the kind of stress a snatch strap can put them under and if they did decide to come away whilst snatching they would fly gracefully along the direction of pull until finding something hard (the other vehicle) or soft (your good self / bystanders/ dog) and just as gracefully imbedding itself.

Using a bridle spreads the load and makes this much less likely to happen.

Lots use these with no problem but better safe than sorry and all that.

Noted, thanks BioSurf. I feel a post regarding recovery points coming on soon...

[biosurf]

No bother at all

Theres lots on here about recovery points if you use the search function
You can get shiney new hooks from TonyN quite cheaply which are rated and can replace the factory hook and the tie down eyes.

as I said its fine if you use a bridle. I use an 8m strap between the points to spread the load with a nylon towrope to go to the other vehicle (looped on, not shackled- the less metal the better) The strap has no stretch whereas the nylon rope has some giving a nice combination of controllability without stressing the recovery points too much.

Same at the back. The ones at the back are located above the bumper line so you can put stress on the bumper by using them and some fit a towbar to use instead. However plenty of the peeps on here use these points with no issue so I wouldn't worry too much. If you do go this route, dont use the tow ball as these are known for flying off when used for recovery.

Also, if you are using a snatch strap you have to make sure that everything is as safe on the other vehicle as if their recovery points fail it'll be you thats getting a face full of metal.

finally and most importantly. welcome to the forum!

[NiftyNev]

Here's a pic of a Surf Recovery Hook. and the Tie Down. Never use the Tie Down point under any circumstances.

Nev

[simonlord]

No bother at all

Theres lots on here about recovery points if you use the search function
You can get shiney new hooks from TonyN quite cheaply which are rated and can replace the factory hook and the tie down eyes.

as I said its fine if you use a bridle. I use an 8m strap between the points to spread the load with a nylon towrope to go to the other vehicle (looped on, not shackled- the less metal the better) The strap has no stretch whereas the nylon rope has some giving a nice combination of controllability without stressing the recovery points too much.

Same at the back. The ones at the back are located above the bumper line so you can put stress on the bumper by using them and some fit a towbar to use instead. However plenty of the peeps on here use these points with no issue so I wouldn't worry too much. If you do go this route, dont use the tow ball as these are known for flying off when used for recovery.

Also, if you are using a snatch strap you have to make sure that everything is as safe on the other vehicle as if their recovery points fail it'll be you thats getting a face full of metal.

finally and most importantly. welcome to the forum!

Thanks for the info BioSurf, and thanks for the welcome...i've been passively reading this forum for a few months as i've just recently bought a '96 3rd gen 3.0TD ssrx. Last night i drove my first green lane! Was great fun, gentle and safe - now i want more! So thought i better get some proper recovery equipment.

[simonlord]

Here's a pic of a Surf Recovery Hook. and the Tie Down. Never use the Tie Down point under any circumstances.

Nev

NiftyNev - do you happen to know what the recovery hook is rated too?

So who of you all uses the Tie Down points (and who uses a bridle when doing so) and who uses the recovery hook?

[stormforce]

i just use the tow strops rather than the snatch rope.If you want to make use of those tow points then come to the rtts in september as there will be plenty of towing out going on

[sledge]

i just use me winch less hassel and more fun pulling people out, unles you get boxed in where you can't use it

[nero279]

the procomp one's on paddocks aren't snatch straps, just webbing tow strops. TBH i'd not bother with snatch straps, i have one and it's only ever been used once, they're a dangerous bit of kit, if either driver isn't aware of what they can do, and 9 times out of ten they're unneccesary, i've seen one recovery where the snatch strap was any more effective than a standard strop would have been, the towing vehicle (driven by an experienced site marshall with plenty of recoveries under his belt) snapped a halfshaft during the recovery, the forces they exert on both vehicles can be immense, and the forces are transferred through the vehicle, not just the tow hooks.

I'd be very dubious of allowing anyone i didn't know well, and a lot of people i do know well, to use a snatch strap to recover me. It tends to stay at the bottom of the recovery gear box as a last resort.

[yoshie]

NiftyNev - do you happen to know what the recovery hook is rated too?

So who of you all uses the Tie Down points (and who uses a bridle when doing so) and who uses the recovery hook?

What part of Nev's answer did you not understand



[QUOTE=Here's a pic of a Surf Recovery Hook. and the Tie Down. Never use the Tie Down point under any circumstances.

Nev [/QUOTE]

[Apache]

I use the recovery on the front and the tie downs on the back with bow shackles through them. I use both sides with a 10m webbing strap. As I have a bodylift, there's no bumper interference on the back.

Haven't had to do any heavy duty recovery as I only do laning, and if you get so bogged in that you need snatch recovery on a green lane you have to ask whether you should be there when its so soft.

[nero279]

...if you get so bogged in that you need snatch recovery on a green lane you have to ask whether you should be there when its so soft.

Exactly, and at a p&p site there'll be a winch not too far away = much safer. The snatch strap has it's place, but it's in soft sand, deserts, the australian outback, snow maybe, but very few situations in general british offroading.