Oven on a plug???

[Growler]

Can ya just plug in electric ovens on a 13amp plug these days?
i've been out the game for a while but always understood they should be wired via a cooker unit to their own fuse (30 amp) the one that was delivered for the kitchen i'm doing for someone has a plug attached and the guys been told he can just plug it in (B&Q) their changing the hob for a gas one tho as it aint got a plug on and has to be wired to a unit of which there aint one, this dont seem right to me especially as it will be shareing a double 13amp socket with a fridge, this has to be too much dose'nt it?

did'nt read the enclosed paperwork as i did'nt unpack it in case it has to go back before anyone states the obvious

Had one of these for several years when we got our first house. Was made by a company called SMEG, worked really well until elements failed and found it easier to replace with new cooker

[POPEYE]

Theoretically, I'd agree. However, some of the far eastern companies do have sod all idea what the CE standards are, and how they should be implemented. In truth, that mark means bugger all in some cases. The plus side that it does have is that whomever supplied the equipment is totally responsible if it goes bang, (or worse), due to lack of adherence to the regs.

Amen to that brother chair! B&Q can carry the can if it goes belly up, (which wont be of any use to the poor sod fry'd in his flat)
on a similar note tho i recently fitted several chrome fronted light switches and double 13 amp sockets from B&Q (and forign made)about the house and to date a 13amp switch has siezed up (jammed off) and two light switches have failed, kitchen and a two gang two way switch in the hall, so i'm sure B&Q buy substandard goods from around the world cheap and knock em out here at a large profiet,
take the shower cubicle i got off ebay made in china ---£700, B&Q £3,000
and its nowhere near as large as mine,
the case for the prosicution rests

[MattF]

Folks, if he's bought a cooker in the UK with an OEM molded on plug, it will be fine. It will be CE marked or a proper seller wont have sold it. Its fine. No offence meant, but dont worry about uninformed opinions. Thats why we have standards testing.

If its CE marked, its fine.

Theoretically, I'd agree. However, some of the far eastern companies do have sod all idea what the CE standards are, and how they should be implemented. In truth, that mark means bugger all in some cases. The plus side that it does have is that whomever supplied the equipment is totally responsible if it goes bang, (or worse), due to lack of adherence to the regs.

[POPEYE]

Yup i always do read em, i was asking in general terms if anyone else had come across an electric cooker (other than a baby belling) that worked via a 13 amp plug, it did'nt seem right to me and still dose'nt but apparantly is is,
i did'nt un pack it to check the instructions in case the people had bought the wrong one and had to exchange it, however it checks out and just plugs in

[joymic]

always follow the instrutions that come with the cooker, thats the 17th ed way, like apache said if it comes with plug on its right, it will be fan assisted.

[tintin]

Yup cheers alan thats just what i'm going to advise him to do, never did get my CORGI/ACOPS ?, never could afford the charge or the time off self employment to do it, and dont need the aggrivation now.

Me niether mate, just stopped doing any gas related work!
Same thing with this "part P" stuff, just dont bother with electrics anymore!
Alan

[Apache]

Folks, if he's bought a cooker in the UK with an OEM molded on plug, it will be fine. It will be CE marked or a proper seller wont have sold it. Its fine. No offence meant, but dont worry about uninformed opinions. Thats why we have standards testing.

If its CE marked, its fine.

[POPEYE]

If the cooker came with a 13a plug fitted then its a fan assisted oven, and only needs to be plugged into a 13a supply(socket).
If the Gas Hob has a lead and a plug , then this will be only for the piezzo ignition and can be plugged into a socket or fused switched spur!
IF the hob is electric only then it will probably require a 30 or even 45amp supply!

If the client has now changed both to gas tell them to get a CORGI registered installer to connect them!
hope this helps
Alan

Yup cheers alan thats just what i'm going to advise him to do, never did get my CORGI/ACOPS ?, never could afford the charge or the time off self employment to do it, and dont need the aggrivation now.

[tintin]

If the cooker came with a 13a plug fitted then its a fan assisted oven, and only needs to be plugged into a 13a supply(socket).
If the Gas Hob has a lead and a plug , then this will be only for the piezzo ignition and can be plugged into a socket or fused switched spur!
IF the hob is electric only then it will probably require a 30 or even 45amp supply!

If the client has now changed both to gas tell them to get a CORGI registered installer to connect them!
hope this helps
Alan

[POPEYE]

OK Thanks for the advice guys, just had word that it's been changed for a gas oven and hob, i'm down there tomorrow so i'll see what they got now?
beginning to wish i'd said no to this one! removed some tiles in the bathroom to retile and half the sodding render came off with em, had to re plaster part of the wall yesterday, only bonding coat so it aint too smooth, day off today tho, lovely i'll be glad when i've had enough

edit> just spoke the the lad and he's just changed the hob, and apparantly the oven is just a plug in jobby! low power or summat, new one on me,
i did point out it's gonna be shareing a 13amp socket (double) with the fridge and that the total amperage for BOTH sockets is 13 amp and not 13amp each
anyway adviseing him for his and my sake to get a proper electrician and gas fitter to do the connections as it's a flat and he gonna be renting it out plus i believe the gas hob has to have a flameout device being in a flat, certanly would.nt want some poor sod getting blown up due to my fiddleing, (dont fancy a stretch in chokey either)

[blackpoolsparks]

If I may.
Have a look at the specification plte on the cooker, or sometimes its with the instructions. There will be a Watt or Kilowatt rating
i.e. 6000 Watts or 5.6 KW
KW is 1000 watts
when you have found this then divide that figure by 230, which is the voltage, this will give you the amprage.
If its any higher than 13 amps then you cannot use a 13 amp plug top.
Work this out and then let me know, I'll guide you through the rest of it.

[Chillitt]

I put a cooker in for a mate with a plug on it... We didn't like the look of it so he checked and apparently it was fine... It worked a treat, but I still dont like the sound of it...

[darkdezigns]

Like i said i aint read the specs as it might have to be exchanged so i did'nt want to unpack it, the plug is the molded on type, it's not a gas oven with a plug for light/fans etc it's an electric oven, think i'll refuse to fit it, they'll have to get an electriction in, dont need this agg

i'd go along with that,u will prob find once unpacked u will/would see proper connections,should be a minimum of 6mm twin and earth supply,but tbh,i now run 10mm cable to make it future reg proof,need any advice,give me a bell

[POPEYE]

Like i said i aint read the specs as it might have to be exchanged so i did'nt want to unpack it, the plug is the molded on type, it's not a gas oven with a plug for light/fans etc it's an electric oven, think i'll refuse to fit it, they'll have to get an electriction in, dont need this agg

[Diezel Weazel]

Ian from what I make of it ... Microwaves yes ..... Cookers NO
The Cooker should be Ok if ya putting the Cooker plug into a designated Cooker Wall Socket n not into just any 13amp Socket ....
But wadda I know !!
Got to agree wiv Marky ....
Safely does it !!!!

There's always a Payback .... Ya just never ever see it Comin !!!!