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    anyone know the stall-test rpm for 3.0 auto. please , mines reaching 3000rpm then overcoming the brakes ???????????????

  • #2
    Originally posted by scousy
    anyone know the stall-test rpm for 3.0 auto. please , mines reaching 3000rpm then overcoming the brakes ???????????????
    ever wondered if its the brakes thats the problem, probably need bleeding, worth a try
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    • #3
      Originally posted by gemini
      ever wondered if its the brakes thats the problem, probably need bleeding, worth a try
      cheers ian , going to do that anyway , but i've got a box problem i think and pulling 3000rpm and not hitting the stall point can't be right ? i'm hoping someone on here might have some previous problem , though not read much on old threads ! thanks for the thought though

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      • #4
        Originally posted by scousy
        cheers ian , going to do that anyway , but i've got a box problem i think and pulling 3000rpm and not hitting the stall point can't be right ? i'm hoping someone on here might have some previous problem , though not read much on old threads ! thanks for the thought though
        I do not own a Surf but was a mechanic for 16 years . I would say that 3000 rpm and no stall out on a diesel sounds high . Only my opinion .
        Possible torque converter prob .
        Some say that a fluid change can make it worse .Do not know why .
        The Surfs I have been in do seem to rev alot with no real go go . Not a dig at you guys , Surfs are GOOD .

        Rick
        Rick...Member of 1st Gen club. ONE LIFE ... GET ONE !!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Vagrant No2
          I do not own a Surf but was a mechanic for 16 years . I would say that 3000 rpm and no stall out on a diesel sounds high . Only my opinion .
          Possible torque converter prob .
          Some say that a fluid change can make it worse .Do not know why .
          The Surfs I have been in do seem to rev alot with no real go go . Not a dig at you guys , Surfs are GOOD .

          Rick
          i think the reason that a fluid change can make it worse is because the bands in the torque converter, some say they have to be set-up after the fluid has been changed, if it is something to do with the torque converter it will be the bands thats the problem
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          • #6
            Originally posted by scousy
            cheers ian , going to do that anyway , but i've got a box problem i think and pulling 3000rpm and not hitting the stall point can't be right ? i'm hoping someone on here might have some previous problem , though not read much on old threads ! thanks for the thought though
            Thats not very nice-hoping someone else has had a previous problem. hehe

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            • #7
              Originally posted by gemini
              i think the reason that a fluid change can make it worse is because the bands in the torque converter, some say they have to be set-up after the fluid has been changed, if it is something to do with the torque converter it will be the bands thats the problem
              bands in a torque comverter?
              what are they then?
              thought it just had a turbine, stator and pump?
              nee nar nee nar, i'm a fire engine!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by dabigman
                bands in a torque comverter?
                what are they then?
                thought it just had a turbine, stator and pump?
                In the transmission there are two bands. The bands in a transmission are, literally, steel bands that wrap around sections of the gear train and connect to the housing. They are actuated by hydraulic cylinders inside the case of the transmission
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gemini
                  In the transmission there are two bands. The bands in a transmission are, literally, steel bands that wrap around sections of the gear train and connect to the housing. They are actuated by hydraulic cylinders inside the case of the transmission
                  The truest definition of stall speed can only reliably be determined in conjunction with a Transbrake. Wheel brake stall is determined by locking wheel brakes and running the engine against the locked brakes. the engine will usually overpower the brakes and wheel rotation will begin before the true stall speed is encountered
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gemini
                    The truest definition of stall speed can only reliably be determined in conjunction with a Transbrake. Wheel brake stall is determined by locking wheel brakes and running the engine against the locked brakes. the engine will usually overpower the brakes and wheel rotation will begin before the true stall speed is encountered
                    i always find that the front brakes will hold and the rears spin up... great burnouts!... bit of antifreeze on the tyres for extra smoke!
                    nee nar nee nar, i'm a fire engine!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by dabigman
                      i always find that the front brakes will hold and the rears spin up... great burnouts!... bit of antifreeze on the tyres for extra smoke!
                      Loony!!! Reminds me of me - years ago........................... .......!!!

                      Cheers, Nick
                      "The force will be with you, always!"

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gemini
                        In the transmission there are two bands. The bands in a transmission are, literally, steel bands that wrap around sections of the gear train and connect to the housing. They are actuated by hydraulic cylinders inside the case of the transmission
                        cheers ian , which brings me to the reason i wanted the stall speed ! my gearbox spat out it's oil 2 weeks ago whilst towing for the first time , only on kick-down. I was told it was a gearbox problem ? any ideas ? it's fine when not towing !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by scousy
                          cheers ian , which brings me to the reason i wanted the stall speed ! my gearbox spat out it's oil 2 weeks ago whilst towing for the first time , only on kick-down. I was told it was a gearbox problem ? any ideas ? it's fine when not towing !
                          i can remember the post now, where did it actually blow the oil out from?,
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gemini
                            i can remember the post now, where did it actually blow the oil out from?,
                            not definate but appears to be dipstick/filler ! oil was everywhere

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                            • #15
                              Gearbox Dipstick

                              I left my gearbox dipstick loose when checking the oil a couple of weeks ago. Spat oil out which ended up dripping off at the back of the sump guard. Luckily did not drive far in that state. Now always make sure its fixed back properly. No repeat of the oil leak.
                              I didn't do it !

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