So should they sell their stories?

[graham78]

what follows is a rather long rant that contains only my own opinions and critisms, please feel free ot read and comment as you wish... i mean no ill to anyone by the coments i made.


i sort of agree with all that has been said above, they should not sell thier story to the press, they did what they had to do to survive, be it right or wrong no body can comment on what is right and wrong till they have been in that sort if situation...

the public will never and should never know what went on behind the doors of either government nor what was done to secure release, they should be happy that all the crew what ever thier choice of force(army, raf or navy) made it back alive.

ever since the second gulf war kicked off it has been a controversial war, one where no matter who gets hurt physically or mentally the press will take whatever side will cause the most controversy to get sales... a prime example is the rmp guys that were shot and then the families saying they want to sue the government for the kids death, they joined the armed forces they wouldnt be holding road blocks and riot lines in the middle of salisbury plain once in a while, an inherrant part of this job is that some day you will need to lay your life on the line and maybe ahve to pay the ultimate price whether or not you agree with the decision you signed to say you will carry out all orders of the queen and government etc and heirs and successors...

also another rant is why put someone on trial because they shot someone??? again no one can appreciate the sheer moment of terroe that someone feels when they are on edge in a hostile place, yeh sure there are rules of engagement but if someone is running at you screaming do you act on instinct or get out the card and run the risk of possibly getting your stick/chalk blown up by mr(s) suicide sid the muslim...

it started with the whole clegg issue in ireland and will never go away the armed forces have a job to do whether or not it is the right one it is the choice of someone at the top that gets paid more to decide

i feel my rant is over, sorry if this is harsh or long winded just had a rough day with other people hassling me about this....

ps yes i am in the army!!!

graham

[Ace Piker]

The RN cost us in the Falklands and they should have seen it coming AGAIN this time.

What total and utter CR@P! What cost us in the Falkands was lack of air cover. A fault of the government!!!

[johnd]

[QUOTE=AuldNick]The RN cost us in the Falklands and they should have seen it coming AGAIN this time.

the marines in the falklands put up a fight , thats all im saying...

[Gizmo]

What total and utter CR@P! What cost us in the Falkands was lack of air cover. A fault of the government!!!

Lack of air cover, thought it was the fact that the Radar missile stations (forgot what they call em) failed to work plus the fact that to initiate some of the communications the ships radars had to be turned off periodically.

And the idiots who overrode the Ships captain in getting men and equipment onto the shore.


PS: i'm against the selling of information from the armed forces to the papers as I feel it degrades their position and professionalism

[jackster]

There`s loads of books about in the shops by ex service folk, so they`er all out to make a quid or two.

SAS books, loads of them about
What about the blokes who were captured in the gulf war(pilots) , they`ve done books, tv and a film.

Loads of factual stuff about all sorts of wars, none of them seem to be free.

I think the only dispute you can make this time, is they`ve been cashing in before they`ve managed to unpack their cases.!!

[Apache]

I think the only dispute you can make this time, is they`ve been cashing in before they`ve managed to unpack their cases.!!

Good point well made.

To take an earlier point re. the Falklands. Yes, air cover would have made a huge difference, but it wasn't in place at the short notice available. It came later.

However, a bigger factor was the availability of a very capable FRENCH anti-ship missile to the Argentinians. Despite the large buyback programme put into effect immediately the UK govt knew there was a potent anti-ship threat, the Argentinian forces still managed to lay their hands on them.

There is still an issue with the French selling arms to all and sundry, including many potential non-allied forces.

And to Graham78, couldn't agree more mate!

[AuldNick]

The French Exocette missile was good but Navy blunders almost lost us that war by losing kit AND men FFS even the Rapier missile auto radar had to be switched off 'cos OUR Harrier answer back codes simply were out of date due to Navy incompetence, thats how Argie jets got past and blew the sh!t out the Welsh Guards using WW2 bombs. Remember the Tristam & Gallahad (spelling) go read that horror story then tell me I am wrong!

Why did the RN not see this latest shambles coming FFS the did the exact same last time out and what the f*ck are 19-20 year old Navy weans doing bouncing around in a rubber boat in foreign waters without protection and WHY did they surrender so friggin easy when there is no way anybody would open fire in the first place AND where was our big ship the weans came from???

100% with Simon, our media have done more damage to our boys on the ground than any jihad could FFS they are army NOT police so lets give them our full on support even if a tw@ terrorist does get a good kicking!

Rant over (for a wee while).

[MudSurfer]

There`s loads of books about in the shops by ex service folk, so they`er all out to make a quid or two....

Can I point out the salient word here....EX service folk.

Once you've done your tours and packed it in, sell as many damn books as you can fit on a shelf. If you are in active service, you keep you mouth shut and do your job.

Should they have sold their stories - absolutely not!

[AuldNick]

Can I point out the salient word here....EX service folk.

Once you've done your tours and packed it in, sell as many damn books as you can fit on a shelf. If you are in active service, you keep you mouth shut and do your job.

Should they have sold their stories - absolutely not!

Wernt "Andy McNab" and Chris Ryan still serving when they wrote Bravo 2 Zero and The One Who Got Away, me thinks they were and still are to an extent.

[Apache]

Rant over (for a wee while).

Somehow I find that hard to believe...

[MudSurfer]

Somehow I find that hard to believe...

Well, that particular rant maybe??

[AuldNick]

Well, that particular rant maybe??

Shhhhhhhh. The Navy's sleeping, it might be back after a nappy change and a rusk in milk.

[MudSurfer]

Shhhhhhhh. The Navy's sleeping, it might be back after a nappy change and a rusk in milk.

God, I love rusks!

[Apache]

God, I love rusks!

Euwwww... I bet you like raw celery too dont you?

[MudSurfer]

Euwwww... I bet you like raw celery too dont you?

Ummm, yes....and carrots...