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Originally posted by Bunkleknow quite a few people involved in undergrnd boring (muddy work) and they are all starting to use these http://www.santanauk.com/workforcein...sp?VehicleID=1 - apparantly undestructible
Shame it still looks like a butt ugly LR.
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Originally posted by TonyNShame it still looks like a butt ugly LR.
Maybe I'm just sore about having to spend another long night in one again tomorrow. And boy will I be sore after the journey!Cutting steps in the roof of the world
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Originally posted by AuldNickSo who are Santana and who's engines do they use, is that wee ugly git Carlos the banjo player?
A Santana is a Land Rover built under licence by Santana, Spain. They are the same as a Landy, but with different body panels.Last edited by M35A2; 7 December 2006, 15:37.
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Originally posted by M35A2A Santana is a Land Rover build under licence by Santana, Spain. They are the same as a Landy, but with different body panels.Cutting steps in the roof of the world
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Originally posted by ApachePity it wasn't the japs building them under licence. They might have taken the opportunity to improve it to something worth owning.
Apache,
It comes across that you are not that keen on land Rovers.....
What you have to remember is that these vehicles go through a very tough evaluation process before the Army goes ahead with a contract. So they do exactly what is asked of them. No more, no less.
I have owned a Lightweight, and still own a Series Three and a Defender 110. I have driven a vast amount of Military vehicles in the 8yrs I was a driver in the Army.
Yes they are rough and ready. Yes they do leak. Yes they are cold. Yes they are pretty slow. Yes they aren't very comfy. Yes they don't have a radio.
The point is, they are there for the sole purpose of transporting men (and women) and equipment to wherever they are needed. They are not designed for comfort. A squaddie will provide his own radio because all the Military Vehicles I have ever driven have never had a radio fitted as standard (maybe the Army is getting soft these days). If a squaddie is cold then get some more layers on. Nothing will send a cold, wet squaddie off to sleep faster than a nice efficient heating system!!
When I was driving Snatch and APV, they saved mine and my buddies butts on several occasions. Yes they have the V8 fitted, but boy did those vehicles take an absolute pounding. They never once let me or my mates down.
It's a shame you can't just go with the flow and enjoy roughing it for a bit. I drive a 56 reg Volvo FM400 at work which has all the modern comforts, air ride seat, comfy bed in the back, aircon, night heater, cd player etc,etc.... But I would trade that all in in a second to be driving green vehicles for a living again...
When you are heading home in the comfy, warm, cd playing Surf, spare a thought for all the squaddies that are still on the plain cold, wet, tired, dirty and a little pi**ed off and just tell yourself that you might have had it bad all day in the Land Rover, but at least your going home to a nice warm bed....Last edited by M35A2; 7 December 2006, 16:08.
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land rover special projects were working on a defender that was about a foot and a half wider than std, and had a 'large' diesel engine.. apparently it was a bit of a monster. sadly the idea got canned due to land rover being skint...it's in me shed, mate.
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Originally posted by AuldNickDid some research on the net and Santana cut all ties with Landrover a few years ago, made in Spain using Iveco 2.9 TD engine @ half the price of a Landy.
Mmmm..... That's like saying I will like to buy a Peugeot 106, but the Citroen Saxo is cheaper so I will have that. At the end of the day the names might be different, and there might be some cosmetic differences, but they are still the same vehicle underneath.
Same goes for the Santana, a few differences, but still the same as a Land Rover.
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