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    The wife has just informed me that she has hardly any braking power, i am working away till later today and ideally need this sorted today as she has had to much time off cause of the truck.

    Is there anyone that can help? or do you know anyone that can help in the area? also it needs some welding in the rear please HHHHHEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP

    Just photographed the problem, the brake pipe in the rear has broken ( green arrow) and fluid is $$$$ing out everywhere, i take it this is dangerous? Can i just block it up temporarily and top up the fluid or will it have an air block in the system. Also along the red line is where it needs welding.
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    Last edited by surfstar; 15 March 2006, 15:54.
    Kite Surf

  • #2
    Originally posted by surfstar
    The wife has just informed me that she has hardly any braking power, i am working away till later today and ideally need this sorted today as she has had to much time off cause of the truck.

    Is there anyone that can help? or do you know anyone that can help in the area? also it needs some welding in the rear please HHHHHEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP

    Just photographed the problem, the brake pipe in the rear has broken ( green arrow) and fluid is $$$$ing out everywhere, i take it this is dangerous? Can i just block it up temporarily and top up the fluid or will it have an air block in the system. Also along the red line is where it needs welding.
    Err, NO!!! You cannot bodge a repair on the braking system..

    The pressures in the pipes when braking is immense. Any repair is dangerous. You MUST get it (on the back of a lorry, preferably) to a decent garage and get them to renew the whol brake line. Get them to check the other lines at the same time.
    It just does, OK?

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    • #3
      I would not drive it with that blocked. If you block it and just top up the fluid you will have no rear brakes, even if you manage to block it and successfully bleed the rear circuit you will have uneven braking. Either way, no matter how cautiously you then drive it you can't anticipate what emergency may occur requiring you to brake suddenly. This sudden braking could then possibly overcome whatever method you used to block it depriving you of brakes once again, plus a thousand and one other posible dangers.
      Last edited by Morr; 15 March 2006, 16:08.
      Maurice
      Hilux Surf FAQ at www.hiluxsurf.eu

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      • #4
        I don't want to alarm you, but to me, the brake pipe looks like it's been cut. I can't see a reason why it would break in the area, and such a clean break too.
        If you have a brake repair specialist near you, they could make up a replacement brake line.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER
          I don't want to alarm you, but to me, the brake pipe looks like it's been cut. I can't see a reason why it would break in the area, and such a clean break too.
          If you have a brake repair specialist near you, they could make up a replacement brake line.
          I thought that too, downloaded the pic and zoomed in, looks very straight indeed, although it could still be a stress fracture. Once cleaned up when being replaced, it will be easy enough to tell.
          Maurice
          Hilux Surf FAQ at www.hiluxsurf.eu

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Morr
            I thought that too, downloaded the pic and zoomed in, looks very straight indeed, although it could still be a stress fracture. Once cleaned up when being replaced, it will be easy enough to tell.
            Because the section attached to the pipe has come apart this may have caused it to snap. $$$$ i dont know what to do, i have a feeling this will be expensive
            Kite Surf

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            • #7
              Ah ha! That will explain the break then. I though someone had it in for you for a minute.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER
                Ah ha! That will explain the break then. I though someone had it in for you for a minute.
                I swear there is some surfers in and around the area that have mechanical skills, is this a totally specialised job?
                Kite Surf

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                • #9
                  O.k. you need to measure the length of the brake pipe, from one end to the other (from nut to nut) then some how, get to a motor factors and they should be able to make up a length of replacement pipe. then unscrew the old broken piece, then fit the new one and bleed the brakes.
                  The welding job is only a five minute job that any garage can do, or if you have a mobile welder in your area they could do it.
                  Also, am I right in thinking you live near Tim, (dirty dog)? maybe he could sort it for you.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by surfstar
                    I swear there is some surfers in and around the area that have mechanical skills, is this a totally specialised job?
                    Its not particularly specialised as long as you have the right tooling, which not everyone will have. You can either replace the complete length of pipe, or if examination shows that the remainder of the pipe is OK, then someone equipped with the correct tooling could easily cut the pipe a bit further back, fit a union and flare and make a new pipe to join to the old one.
                    The repair scenario is probably the easier route if the existing pipe is a long run and you have access to tooling. Then bleed the brakes and away you go. Oh and check out what caused the failure to ensure it doesn't happen again.
                    Maurice
                    Hilux Surf FAQ at www.hiluxsurf.eu

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                    • #11
                      I have the brake pipe on the chasis that I was breaking And I can weld the other bit up for you, but I'm not available untill Friday afternoon.

                      Give me a ring 07740 337153

                      Jon
                      I'm a custard donut monster

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER
                        O.k. you need to measure the length of the brake pipe, from one end to the other (from nut to nut) then some how, get to a motor factors and they should be able to make up a length of replacement pipe. then unscrew the old broken piece, then fit the new one and bleed the brakes.
                        The welding job is only a five minute job that any garage can do, or if you have a mobile welder in your area they could do it.
                        Also, am I right in thinking you live near Tim, (dirty dog)? maybe he could sort it for you.
                        good guess but not as near as Jotto/Vagrant no2/Koi are... Jon (jotto) has mobile welders and has done some stuff for me in the past (and welding is his job!) - and I cant weld...
                        Can you get the car to a garage easily?
                        Tim
                        Break It,Fix It,Repeat,Break It,Fix It,Repeat

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by jotto
                          I have the brake pipe on the chasis that I was breaking And I can weld the other bit up for you, but I'm not available untill Friday afternoon.

                          Give me a ring 07740 337153

                          Jon
                          Phew! Thanks Jon for volunteering to help me.
                          Kite Surf

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by surfstar
                            The wife has just informed me that she has hardly any braking power, i am working away till later today and ideally need this sorted today as she has had to much time off cause of the truck.

                            Is there anyone that can help? or do you know anyone that can help in the area? also it needs some welding in the rear please HHHHHEEEEELLLLLPPPPPP

                            Just photographed the problem, the brake pipe in the rear has broken ( green arrow) and fluid is $$$$ing out everywhere, i take it this is dangerous? Can i just block it up temporarily and top up the fluid or will it have an air block in the system. Also along the red line is where it needs welding.
                            Hey Cris, I fink it was Vince (Bushwacker) who said measure the pipe, from the union (at the T piece, where they join ) along the broken pipe length to the Hub.
                            Try Apsley Motor Spares along the high street from you (near the German /Swedish Shop )they used to make up Brake pipes, failing that Motorway Belt in Adeyfield used to make em up !
                            You might ask them if they know somebody that does welding ?
                            At least with the brakes done, you can then Visit the Vagrants on Frida if Nesessary.
                            If your stuck my No is 07970823247

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                            Last edited by Diezel Weazel; 16 March 2006, 00:04.
                            Buncefield Burner

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                            • #15
                              If I was you, I'd flip that pipe clamp on the right hand side of the pic round the other way, so the pipe has a smoother run to the brakes, on both sides of the axle. The big spacer block under the t-peice is obviously stretching the pipe more than its happy with.

                              Check the other side as well, or just replace them both with longer pipe to make up for the lift the truck has.
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