Walna Scar to be closed

[Gizmo]

Just read in the local rag last night whilst at the parents that Walna Scar in the Lake District is to be closed for 6months [to 4x4s and Trials Bikes] whilst work is being undertaken


and PS:

Official became an old fart last night as I became a GREAT UNCLE

[Medieval Dave]

Walna, like most of the green lanes in the lakes, is a UUCR (UUCR5033) so depending how it is shown on the definitive maps and how the law is interpreted I'm not sure it hasn't closed forever due to the NERC bill now, along with between 66 and 80% of lanes depending on how you work it out.

[HYPERMONKEY]

Walna, like most of the green lanes in the lakes, is a UUCR (UUCR5033) so depending how it is shown on the definitive maps and how the law is interpreted I'm not sure it hasn't closed forever due to the NERC bill now, along with between 66 and 80% of lanes depending on how you work it out.

good job we went up when we did then it was great fun and vey challenging,shame it will be closed ,stupid nerc bill

[Medieval Dave]

It might be worth thinking about doing the garburn road whilst you still can then - it's meant to be even more impressive, if less famous. at the moment it's TRO under permit so you can drive it if you fill in a form then they send you the combination for the locks on the gate, so there are only a certain amount of people per day


http://www.lake-district.gov.uk/inde...ad_garburn.htm

[HYPERMONKEY]

It might be worth thinking about doing the garburn road whilst you still can then - it's meant to be even more impressive, if less famous. at the moment it's TRO under permit so you can drive it if you fill in a form then they send you the combination for the locks on the gate, so there are only a certain amount of people per day


http://www.lake-district.gov.uk/inde...ad_garburn.htm

great link thanks.

[Medieval Dave]

Thats it - Walna is gone forever. Garburn will be gone forever in a matter of weeks, along with many of the o$$$$ries most impressive green lanes

See below for a letter I got from the LDNP - straight from the horse's mouth

The Natural Environment and Rural Communities (NERC) Bill that is currently passing through Parliament could curtail trail riding, if it goes through in its current form.



There a number of different types of non tarmac route that trail riders can use. Byways Open to All Traffic (BOATs) have proven vehicular rights and are recorded on the Definitive Map. We have 13 of these in the National Park. Unclassified County Roads (UCRs) have presumed vehicular rights because they are recorded in the List of Public Streets of all highways that are maintainable at public expense. There are 64 of these in the National Park. We also have routes that are UCRs but are also recorded as footpaths or bridleways on the Definitive Map. There are 31 of these in the National Park. This is where the NERC legislation bites. Government has said that when this legislation is passed (expected April/ May 2006) then the right of way status on the Definitive Map will hold precedence over any other rights which will then be extinguished. Therefore these 31 ‘dual status’ routes that trail bikes and 4x4s have been using as vehicular highways will no longer be available and they will just become footpaths or bridleways. Almost a third of the routes we manage as vehicular will therefore be lost. They include Garburn Pass, Walna Scar and many routes in Grizedale. They will no longer be available to ride once the legislation is passed.



The NERC Bill had its second reading in the House of Lords before Christmas and was recommended to the House in its current form. The Lords has also said that claims to upgrade routes to BOAT status will not be allowed unless they were submitted before 19 May 2005, which is when the NERC Bill was first published. The Bill is going through the Committee stages now which is the last time any amendments can be made. Keep in touch around Easter time for further developments. I’d just like to stress that this is not the result of a Lake District National Park Authority policy – this is primary legislation from central Government and affects all of England and Wales.



We are currently working on how we will inform all users of this. Obviously it is an important task and will involve information on our website, press releases and letters to individuals and clubs. We also have to decide how we get the information across out on site and how we enforce the new legislation once it comes in.