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  • #16
    Websites!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by HYPERMONKEY
      yes indeed very thought provoking stuff ,but whathas been achieved in all this if it was ascam
      The US government's revoking of their populations civil liberty's, compulsory national ID card's, micro chip each and every citizen all in the name of "National Security" they want total control of each and every person living in the US & it's starting over here...........all this control by the use of FEAR.

      A new world order is what the US want (they have wanted this since the 1st world war) a central world government who will be all powerful & dominering over each & every one of us.

      I wonder who's spying on this thread...............paranoid

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      • #18
        It seems strange that the death toll was so low (c2750), I mean two huge skys****ers & the people on the ground. I know it was early, but I just seems strange that there was so few people around.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HYPERMONKEY
          yes indeed very thought provoking stuff ,but whathas been achieved in all this if it was ascam
          a state of fear.. and in this state of fear the errode your civil liberties. and you'll gladly accept this as they say its to protect you. micro chipping, dna at birth, phone tapping...etc etc etc....

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          • #20
            It seems to me to be very dark, underworld stuff. The twin towers collapsed. But most of the damage was at the top of the towers. Then, when they collapsed, they did so perfectly. Straight down, and as straight as a dye.

            The damage at the Pentagon just doesn't add up. How can a plane, flew by a terrorist with no actual commercial plane flight experience, fly straight into the side of the building, and leave a 16' hole, with no damage to the lawn etc. That is just not possible. If the hole on the inside was also the same size as the outer hole, then what ever hit the building, didn't loose any of it's mass for the duration of it's journey. A plane would have dissintergrated long before the point at which they say it exited, and leaving the same size whole, rubbish. The only thing I know of that leaves the same size hole on entry and exit, is a bunker busting bomb. And whilst most of these consist of being laser guided smart bombs, you can get a bunker busting warhead on a Cruise Missile. These have rocket assistance to aid penertration. Hence the nice tidy 16' hole all the way through the building.

            Here is item one. A Cruise Missile fitted with a Bunker Busting Warhead

            http://www.softwar.net/agm86.html

            Look very carfully at this video. Notice the warhead goes completely through the reinforced bomb proof bunker roof, leaving the same size hole as it exits before the warhead detonates. This seems to be what was used on the pentagon.

            http://www.lookatentertainment.com/v/v-1015.htm


            Have you noticed, that our Goverment is also getting very BIG BROTHER at the same time all this stuff is going down with the US??
            Last edited by M35A2; 6 January 2006, 18:54.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER
              I expect somebody has created a fuss about it and was promptly "silenced"!

              Like George Galloway ?

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              • #22
                ok in the cold light of day....
                1. if you were designing the tallest building in the world, you would have to plan for the worst case scenario, so do you a, want it to fall over, killing thousands, or drop into its own footprint? a terrible thing to contemplate, and i doubt any architect would brag about it, but 9/11 could have been worse..
                2. a plane is flying over washington and is comming around to line up on the white house. the way the americans think, its better to shoot it down than have it wipe out the prez's house. missiles fired would be heatseeking and take off an engine and with it a wing, and they aint going to just fire one.. so wahts left hits the pentagon.
                apologies to bereaved families, but at least 1600 pennsylvania avenue is still there to inspire the troops..
                the views expressed here are not the views of the management!
                it's in me shed, mate.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Chillitt
                  ok in the cold light of day....
                  1. if you were designing the tallest building in the world, you would have to plan for the worst case scenario, so do you a, want it to fall over, killing thousands, or drop into its own footprint? a terrible thing to contemplate, and i doubt any architect would brag about it, but 9/11 could have been worse..
                  2. a plane is flying over washington and is comming around to line up on the white house. the way the americans think, its better to shoot it down than have it wipe out the prez's house. missiles fired would be heatseeking and take off an engine and with it a wing, and they aint going to just fire one.. so wahts left hits the pentagon.
                  apologies to bereaved families, but at least 1600 pennsylvania avenue is still there to inspire the troops..
                  the views expressed here are not the views of the management!


                  So what happened to the engine and wing then? If a missile hits a plane with a heat seeking warhead, or a few, yes it would hit the heat source. But with no engines, or possibly no wings, the plane wouldn't have hit the Pentagon, square on, in control, and punch the same size hole through 3 wings of reinforced concrete. The engines would have ended up somewhere else, but there hasn't been any mention from any eye witness of engines or wings raining down from the sky.

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                  • #24
                    The way I understand it both towers fell for different reasons. One suffered a direct hit which took out that outer structure on that side also weakening the centre core. When the fire melted the remaining steel which was holding up those floors the game was up and the floors started collapsing downwards one on top of the other, each one giving way under the force.

                    The other tower didnt suffer a direct hit. The plane entered one side at an angle, missed the core and what was left of it exited the adjoining elevation. This corner was the first to collapse when the steel finally melted around it and that is why the intact floors above seemed to tilt yet the lot still fell straight down as each floor below collapsed in turn.
                    Last edited by JimL; 6 January 2006, 19:29.

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                    • #25
                      i thought the engines may be in the potomac.. i just checked google earth and i cant see them...
                      it's in me shed, mate.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by JimL
                        The way I understand it both towers fell for different reasons. One suffered a direct hit which took out that outer structure on that side also weakening the centre core. When the fire melted the remaining steel which was holding up those floors the game was up and the floors started collapsing downwards one on top of the other, each one giving way under the force.

                        The other tower didnt suffer a direct hit. The plane entered one side at an angle, missed the core and what was left of it exited the adjoining elevation. This corner was the first to collapse when the steel finally melted around it and that is why the intact floors above seemed to tilt yet the lot still fell straight down as each floor below collapsed in turn.


                        If you watched that video, the melting point of the steel was way above the burning temp of the jet fuel. The most convincing thing in the vid, was the blasts that were of equal distance going down the towers in a wave towards the bottom, as the towers were collapsing.

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                        • #27
                          Can't you lot get a life..... and start worring about why BIG BIRD shot JFK , the aliens in the whitehouse and why our BLAIR is from Alpha Centauri.
                          www.daemon4x4.org

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ianwoodzie
                            Can't you lot get a life..... and start worring about why BIG BIRD shot JFK , the aliens in the whitehouse and why our BLAIR is from Alpha Centauri.


                            C'mon Ian....... Alpha Centauri is in our Gallaxy. Blair comes from a totally different Universe!!

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                            • #29
                              Oh and the govener of california is a robot from the future
                              www.daemon4x4.org

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                              • #30
                                Kazam..... ty for bringing this link to our attention, you have succeeded in convincing me, that we were lied to.
                                Who needs speed, People will always wait for me !

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