Customs Letter

[Philip]

This is letter to James in Scotland, any thoughts on this one.
Philip
Not sure if letter attached or not.

[Philip]

Can see its there.

Did better than i thought.
Philip

This is letter to James in Scotland, any thoughts on this one.
Philip
Not sure if letter attached or not.

[TonyN]

any thoughts on this one.

Not that are printable.



A quote from the very website that dumbass is telling you to look at...

"In the UK the government have recently introduced a new tax incentive for vegetable oil based fuels. The definition of biodiesel is 'an ester of vegetable oil fatty acid', which includes methyl ester (biodiesel made with methanol) and ethyl ester etc. Also, from a technical perspective, vegetable oil in it's pure form is an ester, therefore it also comes under the tax ruling. The duty payable on biodiesel is now 27.1 pence per litre (+ VAT), as opposed to 47.1 pence for ultra low sulphur diesel."



Its all rubbish, if you can use used veg oil, then surely you can use new veg oil!!!

[openback]

bit about WVO was probably meaning that if you can get it cheap enough you could still pay mr brown 49p/ltr and make it cheap enough to be viable! not that they'd let you have the reduced rate of tax, b*****ds.

[M35A2]

bit about WVO was probably meaning that if you can get it cheap enough you could still pay mr brown 49p/ltr and make it cheap enough to be viable! not that they'd let you have the reduced rate of tax, b*****ds.

Simple. Use it anyway, and "forget" to tell Mr Brown. Honesty in this day and age gets you broke, fast.

[openback]

Simple. Use it anyway, and "forget" to tell Mr Brown. Honesty in this day and age gets you broke, fast.

as if............................

[BUSHWHACKER]

The more I read of this bureaucratic claptrap, the more happy I am that I didn't submit my forms!

[Philip]

Not being a chemist or anything, am i correct in saying that you need to use two quite dangerous chemicals to make bio diesel? Do the chemicals stay in the fuel once its been, ever what the long word is, to make bio diesel, that the government say is OK to pay lower taxes on?
Sent email to Lord Davisd Hunt, He said he will look into it and i am seeing him on Monday.
Let you know what he says, although don't hold out any hope. Best one to Lobby is probably Ken Livingstone as i believe he is very enviromentaly aware.
Philip

[Chillitt]

transesterficationated?
dont mention 4x4 to ken, mind.....
phillip, dont spose you are selling your lovely fuel warmers at stoneliegh this weekend?

[da SLUG man]

Not being a chemist or anything, am i correct in saying that you need to use two quite dangerous chemicals to make bio diesel? Do the chemicals stay in the fuel once its been, ever what the long word is, to make bio diesel, that the government say is OK to pay lower taxes on?
Sent email to Lord Davisd Hunt, He said he will look into it and i am seeing him on Monday.
Let you know what he says, although don't hold out any hope. Best one to Lobby is probably Ken Livingstone as i believe he is very enviromentaly aware.
Philip

i'll have a word with my dad and see what he can come up with... usually only jumping the queue for a heart bypass, but you never know!

[CaptainBeaky]

This idiot is applying the same double-think as before
On the one hand he is saying WVO once treated (i.e. cleaned) is acceptable, but SVO is not. But treating WVO (filtration, de-acidification) merely returns to a state of being SVO.
This is purely an exercise in revenue protection - they do not want to allow people to pay the lower rate of duty, so they


LIE

[the careful driver]

Tax Fun

"In the UK the government have recently introduced a new tax incentive for vegetable oil based fuels. The definition of biodiesel is 'an ester of vegetable oil fatty acid', which includes methyl ester (biodiesel made with methanol) and ethyl ester etc.

Also, from a technical perspective, [i]vegetable oil in it's pure form is an ester,

Vegetable oil is a tryglyceride with esters (I sound like I know what I am talking about but I don't really. The point is to sound more convincing than the person you are writing too ?)

Try

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triglyceride

and

http://www.campa-biodiesel.de/caengnof/caenkra2.htm

Which I think just goes to backup what the last speaker said.

But I am not sure

[the careful driver]

am i correct in saying that you need to use two quite dangerous chemicals to make bio diesel? Do the chemicals stay in the fuel once its been, ever what the long word is, to make bio diesel

Ooo ooh I know something

try

http://www.campa-biodiesel.de/caengnof/caenkra1.htm

for an overview. Generally an excellent site.

Methanol and Caustic Soda (Potassium Hydroxide) are used to convert Vegoil to Biodiesel. They do not stay in the fuel, or should not, if it is cleaned, washed and filtered well afterward.

Most of my info is from web research. I haven't taken the plunge yet but am trying to work out if any of the Surf parts (fuel delivery lines/fuel pumps, gaskets, filters) are made of rubber, which might have teething problems + rotting when using biodiesel.

The main point of all these fuels is that they do not add to greenhouse gases. Vegoil is even better than Biodiesel in this respect, so of course is a Biofuel will brilliant ecological credentials, which the tax people might like to consider if they are taking a 'Team UK' approach. I think this was actually the main point of the legislation - to reduce CO2 emissions.

We probably all knew that last bit though. Pls excuse.

[TonyN]

OK, a non-Fosters fueled reply this morning....

What we should be asking is, why is SVO not classified as a "deisel quality-capable as being used for the same purpose as heavy oil"

Which it is, our truck been quite happily running on it the last year.

How is a 2 tank system, starting on deisel then switching over to veg to over come cold veg issues any different to a LPG system on a petrol car? These systems won't start on LPG, you have to start on petrol and then switch to LPG.

[TonyN]

This idiot is applying the same double-think as before
On the one hand he is saying WVO once treated (i.e. cleaned) is acceptable, but SVO is not. But treating WVO (filtration, de-acidification) merely returns to a state of being SVO.
This is purely an exercise in revenue protection - they do not want to allow people to pay the lower rate of duty, so they


LIE

Exactly!