Vote No to duty on Vegetable Oil...

[ship]

Not that I would suggest / do such a thing myself!

Rob[/QUOTE]

of course you wouldn,t and point taken about getting the forms to make it "sort of legal", but surely the act of getting and filling in the forms shows an acceptance of a tax you don,t agree with, how many people fill in the C@E forms and at the same time write a letter of protest about this tax to their local MP???


ship (for prime minister )

[Chillitt]

i'd rather have a ship as a prime minister than the.... oh, i cant say that, can i...

[Andy Dawson]

Added my name to the list, but this needs wider publication as the counter has yet to reach 1000!

Any bright ideas people?

[Predictable Bob]

Did the deed a around 18:00 and I've just had a response from my MP - well impressed - working on a Sunday night !!!!!

You ask a good question – and one that came up during the election campaign at my meeting with the local NFU. I am pursuing this with Treasury Ministers and will write to you when I have some progress to report. I agree entirely with what you say.

Best wishes, George Young

[Chillitt]

you want to swap for my m.p? his details still arent on there... ah but its only a few days since the election you say... but wait, he was my m.p last time too.. you would think with a majority of 266 he would be paying attention...

[TheWolfCub]

Keep on voting...

Why did the Surf cross the channel?

So it didn't have to pay any ******* duty on veg oil.

Keep clicking the link guys:

www.dieselveg.com/petition.htm

Go on, you know it makes sense.

Rob

[kitesurf_phil]

I have signed the petition and this is what I wrote to my MP


Dear Kelvin Hopkins,

Further to our most agreeable conversation, before the election, I would like to ask you to raise the matter of reducing the duty on vegetable oil in line with the reduction on LPG. Many people in the UK who have an interest in the environment are converting their diesel cars to run on SVO (straight vegetable oil).
Vegetable oil comes from a sustainable source and the carbons it produces, when burned, are absorbed by plants, unlike mineral based diesel oils which contribute to global warming. The use of vegetable oil as an alternative diesel fuel could create millions of jobs throughout the world and make good use of set-aside land in Europe. Rudolf Diesels prototype engine ran on peanut oil. Other oils that can be used are Palm Oil, Rape Seed Oil, Sunflower Oil, nut oil and Lupin Seed Oil.

The treasury needs to be asked why the UK is charging duty on vegetable based fuels when the rest of Europe and the USA charges zero duty. Those of us that have converted our vehicles have done so at great expense to ourselves and are taking part in a very worthwhile global experiment that could free us from our reliance on the oil rich nations.


Yours sincerely,

I shall see what feedback I get. I'll give KH his due, he did give me his phone number when I collared him about this subject while the election campaign was in full swing.
Doesn't it feel good to be part of a revolution?

[That Ruddy Squirrel]

I'm still waiting to see what response my wonderful MP will give - do you think it may be held against me as I didn't vote for him ?


Trev

[Darren]

Why aren't the likes of Greenpeace backing Veg Oil, I don't agree with all they do but surely they should back this. Just checked their website and not a word of it. Most of their suggestions seem to have positives for the environment and negatives in terms of cost etc but veg oil would be good for everyone, why aren't they promoting it?
Darren

[RichardSeal]

I have signed the petition and this is what I wrote to my MP


Dear Kelvin Hopkins,

Further to our most agreeable conversation, before the election, I would like to ask you to raise the matter of reducing the duty on vegetable oil in line with the reduction on LPG. Many people in the UK who have an interest in the environment are converting their diesel cars to run on SVO (straight vegetable oil).
Vegetable oil comes from a sustainable source and the carbons it produces, when burned, are absorbed by plants, unlike mineral based diesel oils which contribute to global warming. The use of vegetable oil as an alternative diesel fuel could create millions of jobs throughout the world and make good use of set-aside land in Europe. Rudolf Diesels prototype engine ran on peanut oil. Other oils that can be used are Palm Oil, Rape Seed Oil, Sunflower Oil, nut oil and Lupin Seed Oil.

The treasury needs to be asked why the UK is charging duty on vegetable based fuels when the rest of Europe and the USA charges zero duty. Those of us that have converted our vehicles have done so at great expense to ourselves and are taking part in a very worthwhile global experiment that could free us from our reliance on the oil rich nations.


Yours sincerely,

I shall see what feedback I get. I'll give KH his due, he did give me his phone number when I collared him about this subject while the election campaign was in full swing.
Doesn't it feel good to be part of a revolution?

I wrote a similar letter to my MP - I was surprised to get a response, but basically it said that they are going to increase the tax on LPG to be inline with diesel over the next few years!

[Linda]

Interesting thought just occured to me. If the rest of the European community have zero tax on Biodiesel to help with the enviromental protection program, could they be engaged to put pressure on the Uk government. I know they have no real control over UK fiscal policy, but maybe they do on the environmental side?

Prehaps we should write to our Euro MP's too?

[whitehawk]

I have signed the petition and this is what I wrote to my MP


Dear Kelvin Hopkins,

Further to our most agreeable conversation, before the election, I would like to ask you to raise the matter of reducing the duty on vegetable oil in line with the reduction on LPG. Many people in the UK who have an interest in the environment are converting their diesel cars to run on SVO (straight vegetable oil).
Vegetable oil comes from a sustainable source and the carbons it produces, when burned, are absorbed by plants, unlike mineral based diesel oils which contribute to global warming. The use of vegetable oil as an alternative diesel fuel could create millions of jobs throughout the world and make good use of set-aside land in Europe. Rudolf Diesels prototype engine ran on peanut oil. Other oils that can be used are Palm Oil, Rape Seed Oil, Sunflower Oil, nut oil and Lupin Seed Oil.

The treasury needs to be asked why the UK is charging duty on vegetable based fuels when the rest of Europe and the USA charges zero duty. Those of us that have converted our vehicles have done so at great expense to ourselves and are taking part in a very worthwhile global experiment that could free us from our reliance on the oil rich nations.


Yours sincerely,

I shall see what feedback I get. I'll give KH his due, he did give me his phone number when I collared him about this subject while the election campaign was in full swing.
Doesn't it feel good to be part of a revolution?

I didn`t know reindeer had engines!!

[TheWolfCub]

Interesting thought just occured to me. If the rest of the European community have zero tax on Biodiesel to help with the enviromental protection program, could they be engaged to put pressure on the Uk government. I know they have no real control over UK fiscal policy, but maybe they do on the environmental side?

Prehaps we should write to our Euro MP's too?

Excellent idea Linda.

Anyone got any ideas how to contact our MEPs?

Rob

p.s. for those of you who've already signed the petition, I'm not suggesting for a minute that you do this, but if you have an alternative email address you could sign it again!

[TheWolfCub]

Excellent idea Linda.

Anyone got any ideas how to contact our MEPs?

Rob

p.s. for those of you who've already signed the petition, I'm not suggesting for a minute that you do this, but if you have an alternative email address you could sign it again!

OK, me being stupid. The links for the MEPs are on the same web page as those for our local MPs.

I've also mailed my MP now as well (cheated and used kitesurf_phil's letter as a basis for mine). Will see what comes of that.

Sent the following:

Dear David Curry,

I would like to ask you to raise the matter of reducing the duty on vegetable oil. Many people in the UK who have an interest in the environment are converting their diesel cars to run on SVO (straight vegetable oil).
Vegetable oil comes from a sustainable source and the carbons it produces, when burned, are absorbed by plants, unlike mineral based diesel oils which contribute to global warming. Additionally, vegetable oils when burned do not create the harmful chemical bi-products generated by burning diesel.

Add to this the fact that use of vegetable oil as an alternative fuel to diesel could create millions of jobs throughout the world and make good use of set-aside land in Europe. Most outstanding in my mind is the fact that this is something that could be grown here in the UK (rapeseed) - this would surely be good for our economy, which as I see it, despite our strong standing in the global community, is constantly bleeding funds outward to the rest of the world.

Don't know if you know this, but an interesting fact is that Rudolf Diesel, inventor of the diesel engine, produced a prototype engine that ran on peanut oil! Other oils that can be used are Palm Oil, Rapeseed Oil, Sunflower Oil, nut oil and Lupin Seed Oil. Also, of late Shell have developed a range of vegetable based oils, since they are beginning to recognise two factors: one - current reserves of oil are not inexhaustible; two - veg based oils have a number of superior qualities to those based on crude oil.

The treasury needs to be asked why the UK is charging duty on vegetable based fuels when the rest of Europe and the USA charges zero duty. Those of us that have converted our vehicles have done so at great expense to ourselves and are taking part in a very worthwhile global experiment that could free us from our reliance on the oil rich nations.

Finally, the growing consensus amongst those I speak with is simply this: The government has NO concern for the environment; they only care about reaping as much money through as many taxes as possible. I really hope that you can do something to make me think and feel otherwise.

Also just noticed that the partition is now well over a thousand. Not bad going, guess that means that we have added about 200 votes in the last week or so!

Rob

[TheWolfCub]

Gob smacked...

...got a written response from my MP!!

Thank you for your informative letter of 18 May.

I have today written to the Economic Secretary, Ivan Lewis, asking for his response to the calls you make for the duty on vegetable oil to be reduced.

I will be in touch with you again as soon as I have a response from him.

I'm well chuffed. Anyone else got positive feed back like this?

Linda, did you get anywhere on the MEP front?

I've suggested this before on an earlier thread, but do folks think it is worth drafting up a document on the forum that can be copied by forum members and mailed to their MPs or MEPs? If people are willing to send them in. And it's easy enough through the link below. Then I'd be happy to put something together as a starter for ten. I think that we'd need two documents: one for MPs and one for MEPs. Like Linda said, think that we'd approach MEPs on a completely different footing.

In the mean time, if you've not voted yet, then here's another chance:

Click on the link and fill in yer details (EVEN IF YOU HATE VEG OIL).

www.dieselveg.com/petition.htm

Cheers,

Rob