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**SPARKYDEN** · 19 November 2009, 14:54

Just fnished my lift last week after a lot of sweary words skint knuckles aching muscles and quite a bit more dosh than I had bargained for..but worth it in the end.
I went for the LC spring lift at the back and bj spacers at the front with an 1" on the torsion bars and a 2" body lift which has given me 5" in total all round. New +3" Rancho shocks for the back and +2" pro comp es3000 for the front. Panhard Rod was cut and a new bit of metal rod welded inside to the correct length. New extended braided brake lines front and back.
Decided to go for deep dish steel wheels from ebay and a set of 33" Kuhmo KL71's which are fantastic on the road as well as offroad....and to finish it all off a pair of manual free wheeling hubs to save my cv joints. I am more than pleased witht the finished project and it drives a lot better on the road than I expected..the Khumos are so quiet its unbelievable.
I have done a couple of projects before on a Frontera and a Trooper but this was by far the hardest and most costly one to date.
I must give Neil from Outrageous.com a big thankyou for all his advice and of course his fantastic new BJ spacer kit... a bit expensive but you only get what you pay for... which of course I used as well as his LC spring seat kit.
I have added a pic of the finished...just a few more lights to go..project.

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**surfenstein** · 19 November 2009, 19:40

thats www.outrageousoffroad.co.uk
how did you find the new spacer kit was it any good,? would be great to get some feed back from people who have fitted the balljoint spacers to see how they got on with them. good or bad comments welcome.

**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 19:54

Originally posted by surfenstein View Post

thats www.outrageousoffroad.co.uk
how did you find the new spacer kit was it any good,? would be great to get some feed back from people who have fitted the balljoint spacers to see how they got on with them. good or bad comments welcome.

Hi Stein

I spoke to Neil, thanks and he was massively helpful. I am now trying to decide which direction to go in. I know that if you guys did it, it would be spot on which is important, but I have to think about cost and also the distance between us. It would be great for you to do a 3rd gen though so that you could then know what is needed in future. I guess there will be more and more 3rd Gens on here as time passes.

Speak soon...

**blackpoolsparks** · 19 November 2009, 19:58

Originally posted by Fernie69 View Post

Hi Stein

I spoke to Neil, thanks and he was massively helpful. I am now trying to decide which direction to go in. I know that if you guys did it, it would be spot on which is important, but I have to think about cost and also the distance between us. It would be great for you to do a 3rd gen though so that you could then know what is needed in future. I guess there will be more and more 3rd Gens on here as time passes.

Speak soon...

**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 20:08

Originally posted by SPARKYDEN View Post

Just fnished my lift last week after a lot of sweary words skint knuckles aching muscles and quite a bit more dosh than I had bargained for..but worth it in the end.
I went for the LC spring lift at the back and bj spacers at the front with an 1" on the torsion bars and a 2" body lift which has given me 5" in total all round. New +3" Rancho shocks for the back and +2" pro comp es3000 for the front. Panhard Rod was cut and a new bit of metal rod welded inside to the correct length. New extended braided brake lines front and back.
Decided to go for deep dish steel wheels from ebay and a set of 33" Kuhmo KL71's which are fantastic on the road as well as offroad....and to finish it all off a pair of manual free wheeling hubs to save my cv joints. I am more than pleased witht the finished project and it drives a lot better on the road than I expected..the Khumos are so quiet its unbelievable.
I have done a couple of projects before on a Frontera and a Trooper but this was by far the hardest and most costly one to date.
I must give Neil from Outrageous.com a big thankyou for all his advice and of course his fantastic new BJ spacer kit... a bit expensive but you only get what you pay for... which of course I used as well as his LC spring seat kit.
I have added a pic of the finished...just a few more lights to go..project.

Hi Mate

The truck looks great! Thanks for taking the time to reply. A very similar look that I am trying to achieve with my 3rd gen! I must admit, I am starting to lean towards the 2" Springs and shocks lift combined with a 2.5" Suspension spacer lift and leaving the body lift out. In your experience, do you think the only other mods I will need with this are extended brake lines, Panhard extension and Manual FW hubs (would this be needed? If so where did you source them?)

Look forward to hearing from you...

**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 20:10

Originally posted by blackpoolsparks View Post

They'll all come round to the idea eventually Sparks?!...

**surfenstein** · 19 November 2009, 20:10

hi fernie,
yep it would be nice to get hold of a third gen and work our magic on it to show others what we can achieve,and for you the reassurance that it was done proffessionally.(no disrespect to yoshie intended in any way ).but i do understand that the cost and distance is a big factor in your decision.

**surfenstein** · 19 November 2009, 20:12

Originally posted by Fernie69 View Post

Hi Mate

The truck looks great! Thanks for taking the time to reply. A very similar look that I am trying to achieve with my 3rd gen! I must admit, I am starting to lean towards the 2" Springs and shocks lift combined with a 2.5" Suspension spacer lift and leaving the body lift out. In your experience, do you think the only other mods I will need with this are extended brake lines, Panhard extension and Manual FW hubs (would this be needed? If so where did you source them?)

Look forward to hearing from you...

what you need to remember is that you have a third gen and not a second gen the suspension set up is totally different,the second gen has torsion bars and wishbones up front and the 3rd gen has coilovers,with a steering rack and not a steering box.rear end is more or less the same.

**blackpoolsparks** · 19 November 2009, 20:13

Heres a picture of my old 2nd gen:

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**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 20:19

QUOTE=surfenstein;598545]hi fernie,
yep it would be nice to get hold of a third gen and work our magic on it to show others what we can achieve,and for you the reassurance that it was done proffessionally.(no disrespect to yoshie intended in any way ).but i do understand that the cost and distance is a big factor in your decision.[/QUOTE]

You don't need to worry about Yoshie, mate, he's a top bloke. I've already "spoken" to him about my options and although is is happy to do it (so am I) he completely recognises that you guys do it for a living and he speaks very highly of you.

Will be in touch either way...

Nice to be part of a community where offers of help and advice are always there... Especially for us spannerphobes!

**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 20:22

Originally posted by blackpoolsparks View Post

Heres a picture of my old 2nd gen:

Looks Awesome - bet you were said to see it go like I was with my 2nd. Just wanted the extra room and better ride. (It does drive better as well though IMHO)

**Fernie** · 19 November 2009, 20:33

Originally posted by surfenstein View Post

what you need to remember is that you have a third gen and not a second gen the suspension set up is totally different,the second gen has torsion bars and wishbones up front and the 3rd gen has coilovers,with a steering rack and not a steering box.rear end is more or less the same.

Ye, thanks for that. I had sort of worked that out, but glad for the absolute confirmation (See, I am listening!) I reckon I will need an extension for the steering thingy. Ooh Errr, always wanted an extension!

I am looking into the Daystar spacer kit in the US at the mo. Do you think Neil would like to take a gander?...

http://www.daystarweb.com/productdet...?productID=537

Just wondering... If you guys think it could be a good piece of kit, it may be worth getting one and letting you fit it so the you can copy - sorry - manufacter a similar one for future surfers and it might save me a few quid??

Please feel free to let me know if you think it will be cr@p.

**Apache** · 20 November 2009, 22:05

I have a pair of Mark's LC spring locators. Absolute precision, and beautifully machined. I would recommend them wholeheartedly and dont think I would consider the LC spring mod without them now to be honest.

**Fernie** · 21 November 2009, 00:03

Originally posted by Apache View Post

I have a pair of Mark's LC spring locators. Absolute precision, and beautifully machined. I would recommend them wholeheartedly and dont think I would consider the LC spring mod without them now to be honest.

Cheers, Mate. I am quite drawn to taking it down there and letting the guys loose on it for a couple of weeks, I must admit.

If not I'll be more than happy for Yoshie and the crew to do it - he's been mega helpful.

Will complete my research, decide what I want and then make a decision.

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