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**BUSHWHACKER** · 17 November 2009, 00:38

You can't fit 15" wheels as you have a 3rd gen, they have bigger brake calipers.

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 00:44

Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER View Post

You can't fit 15" wheels as you have a 3rd gen, they have bigger brake calipers.

Thanks BW - very helpful and swift as ever...

So I am going for 16's but some of my questions are still valid if anyone can help please?...

Every post I make seems to keep showing just how little I know - but then I never pretended otherwise

**Albannach** · 17 November 2009, 00:47

Depends on whether you want to float over the mud, or cut through it. Wide will float, narrow will cut.

And before you take the pi$$ out of my reply, remember I'll possibly be involved in this work... (even if it's just pointing and drinking coffee)

**BUSHWHACKER** · 17 November 2009, 00:49

I think these are the 33" equivilents for 16" wheels...
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...d=m26b0s1682p0

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 01:17

Originally posted by Albannach View Post

Depends on whether you want to float over the mud, or cut through it. Wide will float, narrow will cut.

And before you take the pi$$ out of my reply, remember I'll possibly be involved in this work... (even if it's just pointing and drinking coffee)

Like it! LOL! No way I'm going to be taking the pi$$ out of anyone on here with my knowledge!!

Especially when you're all so helpful!!

I will be launching and recovering a boat over sandy or sand/shale beach so I guess I need the floaters... look forward to seeing you and learning how to point while looking like I understand. OK at drinking coffee!

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 01:23

Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER View Post

I think these are the 33" equivilents for 16" wheels...
http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...d=m26b0s1682p0

Cheers, BW.

I currently have 265 x 75's at the moment. Done a bit of research, do you think I could fit 305 x 70's? Apparently the overall diameter is 32.81" and 305mm is about 12.5"...

**stormforce** · 17 November 2009, 09:15

you also need to look at the offset of the wheels aswell.
Some on here that have the 15x10's have something like a 32offset i think it is but my 15x10s are a -52 offset inorder for them to stick out further.They do look better tho on the 10"wide rims but you do lose a bit of the lift as the tyres are pulled out rather than pushed up like on the narrower rims

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 11:10

Thanks SF, appreciate your input. That seems to be quite a difference. I'm assuming that yours not only stick out further but give more clearance to the inside of the arch?

Also assuming that the positive offset is ok in terms of clearance.

Can you/anyone give me some guidance as to whether a positive or negative offset would be better for my main use please? I.e. Wider or narrower overall track ...

Originally posted by stormforce View Post

you also need to look at the offset of the wheels aswell.
Some on here that have the 15x10's have something like a 32offset i think it is but my 15x10s are a -52 offset inorder for them to stick out further.They do look better tho on the 10"wide rims but you do lose a bit of the lift as the tyres are pulled out rather than pushed up like on the narrower rims

**RodLeach** · 17 November 2009, 16:10

Go for 16x10's

You can run 305/70/16 tyres no problem. They're the correct 33x12.50 size.. the 285/75 is a 33x11.50 which is by far a more popular size an i believe.. cheaper!

Personally.. considering you said you're only going to go offroad a handful of times a year.. I'd get 35's!!

I did!!

I'd take Yoshie up on his kind offer of fitting the body lift etc.. An then maybe see what stein or 4crawler can do suspension wise!

I had a 5.5" lift on my truck to fit the 35's an i know one bloke who fitted 35's on stock height!!

But i do appreciate i'm "as mad as a sack of badgers"

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 18:55

Originally posted by RodLeach View Post

Go for 16x10's

You can run 305/70/16 tyres no problem. They're the correct 33x12.50 size.. the 285/75 is a 33x11.50 which is by far a more popular size an i believe.. cheaper!

Personally.. considering you said you're only going to go offroad a handful of times a year.. I'd get 35's!!

I did!!

I'd take Yoshie up on his kind offer of fitting the body lift etc.. An then maybe see what stein or 4crawler can do suspension wise!

I had a 5.5" lift on my truck to fit the 35's an i know one bloke who fitted 35's on stock height!!

But i do appreciate i'm "as mad as a sack of badgers"

Hi Rod

Thanks for the info and advice...

I wanted 35's originally but both Yoshie and Neil at outrageous advised me against it, especially as I have a 3.0 litre Auto. They said that it would really screw up my gearing - you can see what Yoshie said on the other thread "Help with 3rd Gen Lift" that you commented on before. He also said it will drastically reduce MPG - not too bothered about that with mileage I will do but I will be towing so don't want to b*gger gearing.

Think I may well go with 10", but conscious about what SF said about losing a bit of extra lift so we'll see... Not so much of a problem with a 5.5" lift

**RodLeach** · 17 November 2009, 19:48

I had a 2.4 an it still worked...

I never once had an issue with it! I fully appreciate everyones points of view on it.. but as someone who ran 35's i was more than happy with its performance!!

I'm not going to say it was 'fast' because it wasn't..

But what i will say.. Is get exactly what you want, Not what you're told you should get.

Phantoms truck on here has i believe, 2 x 3" body lifts fitted.. A while back the idea of fitting anything higher than a 3" lift was classed as dangerous! Phantom now has one of the most amazing 4x4's i've ever seen.. An the 6" body lift hasn't caused him issues! (that i'm aware of... )

As far as offroading with the 35's goes.. As long as clearance is kept you wont have issues.

Many hilux pickups run 35" tyres on a 2.4 non turbo engine!!

**Fernie** · 17 November 2009, 21:24

Originally posted by RodLeach View Post

I had a 2.4 an it still worked...

I never once had an issue with it! I fully appreciate everyones points of view on it.. but as someone who ran 35's i was more than happy with its performance!!

I'm not going to say it was 'fast' because it wasn't..

But what i will say.. Is get exactly what you want, Not what you're told you should get.

Phantoms truck on here has i believe, 2 x 3" body lifts fitted.. A while back the idea of fitting anything higher than a 3" lift was classed as dangerous! Phantom now has one of the most amazing 4x4's i've ever seen.. An the 6" body lift hasn't caused him issues! (that i'm aware of... )

As far as offroading with the 35's goes.. As long as clearance is kept you wont have issues.

Many hilux pickups run 35" tyres on a 2.4 non turbo engine!!

Mmmmm, very interesting and food for thought - thanks for making my decisions harder!!

**Fernie** · 18 November 2009, 16:25

"Spoke" to Phantom and he confirmed that unless I mod the gearing etc, the 35's would cause a problem. Just thought folks might like to know in case they are looking at it.

Not trying to rubbish what you are saying Rod, obviously, I always appreciate your feedback... You were clearly happy with yours and it looked great!! Just thought it would help, the more opinions were available.

**RodLeach** · 18 November 2009, 16:49

It will cause a problem...

But how much of a problem depends on your personal taste!

Biohazard is running 35's on a 2.4 turbo engine.. I'm not going to say its ideal! But its bearable! An nice knowing the 2.4 n/a hilux boys have it worse!

My Jaguar is so smooth and insanly fast compared to my truck.. but when i had both there were times when i'd park the Jag up an jump in the truck!

You're never, ever going to hear any positive things about running 35's.

But i really just wanna stress on the point that if you want 35's.. get them!!

No point in settling for 'that'll do'!

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