interesting bits...

[AndyLala]

Hmmmm nice.....

www.marlincrawler.com

not that I am thinking about crossmembers and rear bumpers at all...

not after what we found in my rear diff, on its fluid change....

This has me scratching my head... on that one...

[Vagrant No2]

Those rear bars are wot I have in mind for mine , got several designs in my files on pc to choose from . Jon has got some tube ready for me .

[nero279]

I is thinking of getting a rear bumper made up soon. I would like a twin tubular style design, with a towball mounting aswell. So would have to be a pretty substantial piece of kit.

If anyone would possibly be interested in one or like to see the kind of thing i have in mind lemme know and i'll see what i can do with photoshop.

No idea on price yet but would be a friend making it up in his engineering factory so shouldn't be too bad, materials plus whatever he pays his staff to make them timewise i would have thought. and maybe a couple of pint's for himself.

[MattF]

Looking at the design of that bumper, leads onto one of my
weird ideas that I've been having for a while. Upto just, everyone
I've run it past has told me I'm weird, (as if I didn't already know ).
A bumper like that, with sliders inplace of the side steps, but with a
curved piece around the wheel arch between the end of the bumper
and sliders as a solid wheel arch extension replacement, and whip
the fibreglass ones off. Is it really such a weird idea?

[nero279]

Looking at the design of that bumper, leads onto one of my
weird ideas that I've been having for a while. Upto just, everyone
I've run it past has told me I'm weird, (as if I didn't already know ).
A bumper like that, with sliders inplace of the side steps, but with a
curved piece around the wheel arch between the end of the bumper
and sliders as a solid wheel arch extension replacement, and whip
the fibreglass ones off. Is it really such a weird idea?

Weird??

Not if you don't mind driving something that loks like a surf sized bumper car around. IMO

Or have i mis-interpreted what you mean??

[MattF]

Weird??

Not if you don't mind driving something that loks like a surf sized bumper car around. IMO

Or have i mis-interpreted what you mean??

Nope. No misinterpretation. Problem with the standard arches is
that they don't like being smacked. Metal tubing connected to the
chassis whilst being slightly displaced from the bodywork would be
the ultimate arch and side panel protection.

[Snoop]

Nope. No misinterpretation. Problem with the standard arches is
that they don't like being smacked. Metal tubing connected to the
chassis whilst being slightly displaced from the bodywork would be
the ultimate arch and side panel protection.

and double up as somewhere for the missus to hang the washing out...

[MattF]

and double up as somewhere for the missus to hang the washing out...

It'd be one hell of a sexy looking clothes line, though.

[Vagrant No2]

Nope. No misinterpretation. Problem with the standard arches is
that they don't like being smacked. Metal tubing connected to the
chassis whilst being slightly displaced from the bodywork would be
the ultimate arch and side panel protection.

It has been done in the USA , they do alot of rock crawling and I have seen pics of many Surfs with rock sliders under the sills linked over the rear arches like you say and then welded to a double tube rear bumper with 1/4 panels tubes aswell . Not a full EXO but like wot you are descibing . The USA Surfs (Runners) dont have the wide arches , just narrow body styles .

[Gamedawn]

ARB do the arch protection bars as a standard product for a lot of vehicles, but last time I checked thay didn't have any to fit a Surf

[BUSHWHACKER]

These look good!

[MattF]

Anybody got any pics of those American ones? I've been
looking for yonks and not seen one yet. Nice pic, Vince.
That's one I haven't seen before.

I told people I wasn't being any weirder than normal. With
pics, I can prove it.

[AndyLala]

More on the differential...



As it was a standard option on the surf, just very few went for it...

It must be in the EPC... and lo and behold, search and you will find...

Note: all three different diff styles carry the same part number... pants... but the image shows the image of the locker clearly, as a complete unit and as component parts. Parts guy at Toyota - Fish Brothers in Swindon is investigating...

Part Number
41110-60380
Carrier Assy, Differential, Rear
LN130..SSRX
VZN130..4FC

*FGR=39:8=4.875

Subs Part Number
41110-60690

£815.34 + VAT = £958.02

Prod Date 9108-9511 From LN130 - 0072523

Part Number
41110-60390
Carrier Assy, Differential, Rear
LN130..SSRX
VZN130..4FC

*FGR=39:8=4.875, + - 0 (LSD)

Subs Part Number
41110-60700

£1150.51 + vat = £1351.85

Prod Date 9108-9511 From LN130 - 0072523

This is the V6 version...



8" rear locker out of a 2.8 diesel...

with 4.555:1 FGR...

£1174.28 inc vat... from Fish Brothers Swindon...
He is now trying to find a 4.875:1 ratio electric locker....

[AndyLala]

Alternate list

Part Number Quantity Description Source

41110-3D030 1 4.10 Electric Locking Differential Toyota

42181-60050 1 Gasket for Electric Locking Differential Toyota
90116-08330 2 111mm Studs Toyota
82127-35100 1 Wiring harness from Differential Toyota
2 10A 12V relays and bases Radio Shack
1 1 inline fuse with 10A fuse Radio Shack
2 12V LEDs (red and green) Radio Shack
1 15' 14 gauge 6-conductor wire RV store

taken from http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/electric_locker/

[nero279]

Anybody got any pics of those American ones? I've been
looking for yonks and not seen one yet. Nice pic, Vince.
That's one I haven't seen before.

I told people I wasn't being any weirder than normal. With
pics, I can prove it.

OK given some of them actually don't look too bad... (should i admit that??)
It just sounds like it's going to look butt ugly when you first hear about it.

I found links to some from http://toyota.off-road.com/toyota/ but i can't find the pictures again now