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  • Adding 2-stroke to diesel?

    Copied from another forum:

    I did a lot of reasearch on 2 stroke oil in diesel engines.

    It seems our american cousins are already wise to the benefits of a drop of 2 stroke oil.

    Anyway the science is well proven , it burns more completely than diesel , reduces engine smoke to virtually nothing , cleans the combustion chamber , it appears to lubricate the egr valves to close more evenly.
    (I had a lazy egr valve one side but it's not lazy any more)

    You can buy 2 stroke oil cheap enough on ebay , from wilkinsons or b+q.

    I've used it for a few months now in my RRS and the wifes A4 tdi.
    Much quieter when cold ,much better throttle response . no smoke unless I drive like a test pilot when I get a light haze from the pipes instead of the smoke I used to get.The throttle response is thebig difference.
    It is more lively and the gearbox doesnt hunt up and down at all.

    just 300mL of 2 stroke oil in a full tank really does give you wings.

    I've got my dad using it in his Mitsi L200 navvy wagon , same story.
    Neighbours ford focus , different motor!!
    Mates escort diesel van 1.8 , much smoother +quieter.

    Any questions ask away , I've had such success I thought it was my duty to report it.

    I've done a fair bit of research for bulk buying , I wont post it as it might be construed as commercial posting.

    It's such a small percentage of the full tank it can do no damage and dissolves completely.

    I dont see how we can lose
    Anyone come across this? any thoughts?

    Cheers

    Chris

    EDIT: Forgot to add, apologies if it's been covered before on here (not been on for ages) but didn't find anything on the search.
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  • #2
    How the hell can it lubricate an EGR Valve when the oil is in the fuel and the EGR is connected between exhaust and intake and the only oil it would see is burnt stuff.

    Nev

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    • #3
      Originally posted by NiftyNev View Post
      How the hell can it lubricate an EGR Valve when the oil is in the fuel and the EGR is connected between exhaust and intake and the only oil it would see is burnt stuff.

      Nev
      True, the only way you'll lube the EGR if if you have unburnt oil in the exhaust.

      The EGR don't need 'lubing' as such, it gets blocked with soot from the exhaust, so dosn't close properly, or it mechanically dosn't work through lack of vacuum, age or faulty triggering.

      Anything that burns better then deisel cleans up a smokey motor, ATF fluid, petrol, any of the fuel additives you buy, etc...nothing wrong with the theory behind using 2 stroke oil. but people sometimes get carried away with how much differenece it makes.

      The biggest gains are to had on an engine what isn't 100% right, and is having trouble running on straight deisel anyway.
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      • #4
        2stroke

        Not that i am having problems, but would a small amount help with a 50/50 diesel/WVO mix? As my WVO is free and just filter twice and let it settle, i am getting around 36MPG and thats in London traffic.
        Keep your Mini's !!!!!
        Still Searching,
        Dick Whittington

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        • #5
          Thanks Guys.

          TonyN, would you add it to your truck if it was otherwise running fine?

          Cheers

          Chris
          Signature stolen along with Surf...

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          • #6
            We generally use a shot of Redex or Millers every tank full, when I remember, so would give it a try.

            What harm can it do? It will lube the pump and injectors, and maybe the valve seats, although not much on an indirect injection motor, if nothing else.
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            • #7
              As the main man (Mr T) says ATF is fine, n as near as dame it redex
              ps.
              How's the Ponderosa coming ??

              There's always a Payback .... Don't know where, don't know when tho !!!!
              Last edited by Diezel Weazel; 20 April 2009, 16:43.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by TonyN View Post
                What harm can it do? It will lube the pump and injectors,
                I was just about to ask, isn't there a theory that as the Surfs rotary pump uses the fuel for lubrication, using veg does put some extra stress on the pump as it isn't as lubricating as dino? If this is the case would adding some 2 stroke be a good idea if you are using high concentrations of WVO especially if you are mixing in petrol?

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                • #9
                  I thought I'd read somewhere that veg was more lubricating than dino?

                  Probably wrong. There's a first time for everyone I guess...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Apache View Post
                    I thought I'd read somewhere that veg was more lubricating than dino?

                    Probably wrong. There's a first time for everyone I guess...
                    Thats what I thought but then reading previous threads on here earlier seemed to suggest otherwise. But from a brief google I think you're right.
                    smarta$$

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                    • #11
                      I think there have been crossed wires somewhere along the line.

                      Someone's heard someone else talking about 2 stroke diesels and how much better they are than 4 strokers, they've convoluted it in their heads to say "put 2 stroke oil in your diesel, it'll make it so much better"?
                      Do you know that, with a 50 character limit, it's

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by biosurf View Post
                        Thats what I thought but then reading previous threads on here earlier seemed to suggest otherwise. But from a brief google I think you're right.
                        smarta$$
                        Still waiting for my first time then...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Albannach View Post
                          I think there have been crossed wires somewhere along the line.

                          Someone's heard someone else talking about 2 stroke diesels and how much better they are than 4 strokers, they've convoluted it in their heads to say "put 2 stroke oil in your diesel, it'll make it so much better"?
                          A bit like if you use 3 phase 440v on your 240v telly, the pic is much brighter!
                          Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TonyN View Post
                            We generally use a shot of Redex or Millers every tank full, when I remember, so would give it a try.

                            What harm can it do? It will lube the pump and injectors, and maybe the valve seats, although not much on an indirect injection motor, if nothing else.
                            Thanks Tony

                            Do you know when you will you be fixing trucks again BTW?

                            cheers

                            Chris
                            Signature stolen along with Surf...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Apache View Post
                              A bit like if you use 3 phase 440v on your 240v telly, the pic is much brighter!
                              that's one way of shortening you TV's life and seeing spots each time you blink.
                              Show me where the trench is at or can i make one!

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