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  • Manual to auto swap

    Hello,

    Just wanted to show you how we're working in the manual to auto swap.

    Why auto? Because as my truck is not EFI I need a standalone computer to control the tranny, so I can configure it to my taste.

    I'm going to use a SupraStick computer to control the tranny, being able to choose between two automatic modes and a full manual mode with overrev protection.

    As I've a Momo steering wheel I'm going to buy a thing like this to have shift controls in the steering wheel:





    Also I can put a simple 16x4 display and monitor the speed, the RPM, the TPS and gear engaged.



    This is an A343F auto tranny out from a 3.0TD Hilux Surf. Also got the TC, flywheel, bellhousing and shifter, got it from Richard (stormforce) thanks!!!

    The A343F it's almost identical to the A340F, I think the only difference is some gear ratio.
    Nice thing of being a "F" series is that the tranny isn't a part of the tranny like in the A340H's found in the States' 4Runners. This means it has a standard V6 pattern so I can put my chain driven T-Case or put duals in a future.



    Have you seen the fancy customized short sleeve coveralls my friend has?





    The T-Case it's almost identical to the chain driven ones on the R150F manual trucks, but we're going to use mine instead of this because this is an electric actuated one and the motor would interfer with my parking disc brake. Also less electrics, less problems. Nice thing of those electric transfers is that you can have a "dual shifter" with only a switch.





    This is the shifter linkage



    T-Case actuator. Only has one rail for controlling the ratio.



    Bellhousing



    Parts we are not using. The throttle cable and cooler tubes. I'll use a big cooler in front of the radiator and will be blocking the throttle cable in WOT position to have the tranny pressure always high. Will make a little noise when idling and will require a bit more brake pedal in the red lights but will make quickier shifts (Cooler ATF, more reliable tranny).



    T-Case and tranny coupling



    The electric tranny we're discarting





    Pulling the tranny pan you find the filter



    Pulling the filter you can see the valve body and the solenoids. Two for the shifts and one for the TC lock-up.



    Lots of bolts!



    This is the valve controlling the tranny pressure IIRC.





    Those are the shifting accumulators. From left to right the 1-2, the 2-3 and the 3-O/D.



    In the 1-2 and 2-3 accumulators we're going to do a mod the Supra guys developed. It consists of shimming the little springs so more pressure is achieved. This makes the shifting quickier and harder. The Supra guys had excelent results with this mod and they've engines developing +450HP...







    Here is where the shim goes



    This accumulator will remain stock as the shifts you want quicker and more used are the 1-2 and 2-3.



    Valve body detail.





    This is the shifter rail







    Hope you like it.

    I'm going to order the tranny cooler and the SupraStick.

    David
    '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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    Ah, Richard, the tranny looks it is in excelent condition, only a bit dirty so no problem

    David
    '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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    • #3
      Cheers Dave.Glad it was all ok for you.I did get most of the dirt off of it so i could try to find the numbers you wanted from it but never had time to give it a decent clean before sending.The main thing is everything is ok with it and the dirt can be cleaned off again
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      • #4
        How much was the gearbox controller? I had thought about modifying the original one to give me the option of holding torque converter lock-up to lower speeds but have been able to find very little info on the original controller.
        Cutting steps in the roof of the world

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        • #5
          It's 350$ and with the dollar being so low I payed 252€ for it shipped

          There's another one wich has tons of inputs and outputs but it's 750$. It's the one from Powertrain Control Solutions.

          David
          '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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          • #6
            Good work, nice info.

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            • #7
              i am liking your work there blizzard,like tony said good info,keep us updated very interesting little project.i would like to see how it all turned out in the end and wether it worked out ok.wil be keeping an eye on this thread.
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              • #8
                Hello, time for an update!

                This is the SupraStick as we received it from Latent Solutions:



                Seal and gasket kit for the A343F



                Universal TPS from Powertrain Control Solutions





                Taking off the drive shafts





                T-Case parking brake







                The R-150F goes to the ground





                Clutch showing up



                I really want to see how is the clutch disc after 14 years and 199000mi...



                We ordered the rear main seal and later we saw it was needed hehehe











                This is the manual flywheel (Is this one of those that are dual-mass?)





                And my beloved stock clutch... 14 years of use arround all Europe a Morocco and 199k miles and still the same that the factory put in my 4Runner. It's still at 3/4 life.









                The rear main seal that leaked



                This weekend I'm travelling where my truck is for two weeks so I'll have more updates.

                David

                David
                '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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                • #9
                  excellent write up, keep up the good work.
                  Non intercooled nothing.

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                  • #10
                    Looking forward to the next series of pics and info, cheers.
                    Alan

                    yoshie "Didn't know they had a pill for laziness, anyway get well soon."

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                    • #11
                      Here you have them hehe

                      The mechanical T-Case that came with my manual R150F bolts with no problems to the A343F tranny.





                      No problems either with the two rods that came from the T-Case, one for the traction and another for the ratio. The electric T-Case of the A343F only have one for the ratio.



                      We've only to clean the boxes and shim the accumulators.









                      Electric T-Case (Left), that came from the A343F and the mechanical T-Case (Right) that came with the R150F.



                      This coupler has different sizes in each T-Case but it doesn't suppose any problem because the clearance is perfect and it's the same spline count.
                      This is the coupler from the electric T-Case



                      Coupler interior



                      Mech T-Case coupler



                      A343F coupling with the T-Case



                      Cheers,

                      David
                      '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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                      • #12
                        Hello,

                        Today we've cleaned a little the tranny and tomorrow we expect to reassemble it with the new seals and gaskets.

                        Begin cleaning...



                        During





                        Looks like something's missing...





                        This is one of the shims machined in alu to increase the pressure in the shifting accumulators. They're being installed in the 1-2 accumulator and 2-3 one.



                        More tomorrow.

                        Cheers,

                        David
                        '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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                        • #13
                          Hello,

                          Time for an update...

                          Changed all the case seals except for the gears ones. Clutch discs were in excellent condition so no need for rebuilding the whole tranny. That thing in the splines is for the speed sensor of the tranny





                          Where the T-Case stick bolts





                          The filter



                          Valve body



                          The solenoids. The nearer is for the TC lockup and the other two are for the shifts



                          Cleaned the oil pan. It has some magnets to collect small metal shavings



                          Valve body





                          Cleaned the oil pan joint



                          Bellhousing



                          Tranny interior



                          Accumulators. Ones being shimmed are the right ones



                          Opened the valve body to change the gaskets. You've to be careful with the metal balls and a small spring











                          All cleaned and ready to assemble







                          A bit of paint



                          Assembly ready to lift





                          Clanged the rear main seal (The crackshaft one)







                          Auto flywheel before cleaning



                          Lifting the tranny







                          Had to enlarge the floor hole 8cm





                          Cleaned the T-Case stick



                          Fabbed a new crossmember to support the tranny













                          Gusseted supports







                          Parking brake









                          Then noticed the front driveshaft would hit, so a plasma touch and a piece of tube solved it







                          Cut some rigid diesel pipes that interfered with the parking brake disc and swapped with rubber ones





                          When I started the truck I was very dissapointed, the wheels didn't move. We checked the pressure of the tranny and was 0, so we've to spend 3.5h in taking it off again. Removed the oil pump and found this





                          I've send the pics to Richard (Stormforce), who sold me the tranny, I'm sure he'll chime in



                          Luckily that part it's a bit less than 50€ from Toyota and we had it in three days





                          I replaced the gear, put the tranny up and filled with ATF and voila! It works perfect.

                          Then begin with the electronics... Fabbed a support for the TPS in the injection pump (My truck it's a 1KZ-T without ECU)





                          Universal TPS





                          Mounted it on the firewall behind the intercooler





                          TPS mounted





                          Then begin with the osciloscope searching for the RPM signal...







                          Found it but it was only 0.5V idling and 1.5V accelerating and had quite noise. So we desoldered a condenser and two transistors from an old PC power supply and made a filter/amplifier for the RPM signal



                          And made testing paddle buttons for sequential modes



                          Put the truck in the dyno to make it run





                          As I'm testing no wires are still well situated hahaha





                          Hope you like it

                          David
                          '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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                          • #14
                            I didn't expect so much interest...

                            The truck works amazingly, the SupraStrick is really nice

                            David
                            '94 4Runner 3.0TD - SAS'ed on 35's

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                            • #15



                              Awesome write up mate. quality pics too.

                              I like the idea of the suprastick!!

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