angel eye spots

[WARRIOR72]

hi guys i just got hold of 4 blue angel eye spots. i intend using them on a roof bar of some sort, does anyone have any ideas or wiring diagrams to help?
i already have four 100w spots on the bull bars and want to put 100w bulbs in these ones on the roof. what wiring/fuses/relays would you recommend .will the alternator be okay with all of this. i got the twin batteries fitted if that makes a difference!!has anyone done this recently and can help before i take a jigsaw to the roof and totally bugger it up!!?

[BUSHWHACKER]

hi guys i just got hold of 4 blue angel eye spots. i intend using them on a roof bar of some sort, does anyone have any ideas or wiring diagrams to help?
i already have four 100w spots on the bull bars and want to put 100w bulbs in these ones on the roof. what wiring/fuses/relays would you recommend .will the alternator be okay with all of this. i got the twin batteries fitted if that makes a difference!!has anyone done this recently and can help before i take a jigsaw to the roof and totally bugger it up!!?

See pic. For four spotlights, use two relays.

Basically, copy the wiring diagram twice but with one switch.

[MattF]

See pic. For four spotlights, use two relays.

Basically, copy the wiring diagram twice but with one switch.

Or you could use two relays with two switches. Have the centre pair on one
switch, and the outer pair on a second switch. Sort of like a high/blind setup.

If they are all running off one switch, whether you use one or two relays
depends upon the relay rating. 400W is approximately 33A, so if you're using
a 50A relay you're fine. Using 50A cable, you can use a ring main type wiring
setup, which only requires two wires going upto the roof bar from the relay.
Run those wires to the two outer lights, then loop the +12V terminals on all
the spots, so that you end up with something like below. (Sorry about my
cr@ppy image editing skills ).

[WARRIOR72]

thanks you two i knew i could depend on you...whats the easiest way to wire in the angel side lights.... do you know what colour the wire is for the side lights? surely as these are only leds i wont need a mass of wire going to them? cheers

[dirtydog]

you have shown in the diagram that terminal 87 is a loop which its not - instead run 1 relay wire from terminal 87 then into each spot

relay ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot

leds will be fine on sidelight circuit but i cant remember the colour - try a search here.

[POPEYE]

Under the dash (comeing off the stalk) it's green/black, but some very so check it with a test light, got my four roof light's (when they go on) through two relays and two switches, see pic, reading from left to right are fog Front and rear, roof (two switches, front, three switches and last is angel eyes,
i put em all through seperate switches so i can turn em all off for MOT in case the bloke gets arsey

[MattF]

you have shown in the diagram that terminal 87 is a loop which its not - instead run 1 relay wire from terminal 87 then into each spot

relay ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot

Why is a ring main called a ring main? Doing it without the loopback will lead
to the wire from the relay getting fully loaded. Looping it will distribute the
load. Doing it as you mention may also have the effect that each spot over
may have slightly less output. With more than one spot, it should be either
a separate wire to each spot, or a ring circuit, i.e:

relay ==> spot1
relay ==> spot2
relay ==> spot3
relay ==> spot4

or

relay ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot ==> spot ==> relay

[fatfires]

So there I was - thought this is a handy thread I got some lights to sort out(thanks to bensonsnuts), so prints off the 2 diagrams, reads the next thread, out with the snowpake, blank out the return loop. now I dont know whether I am on my Ar$e or elbow, would you gents please sort out a difinitive answer for 4 cruise lights with led's, wiring the led's into the sidelight circuit and the mains to come into 2 switches but able to flash with the headlamp flasher.
I have the lamps, I have 2 relays + wire etc in a 'quick wire kit' but dont realy like the switches so would rather not use them.
Domestic wiring no probs ....... motors!!!!!!!!!no!
grovel, grovel, thanks in advance

[BUSHWHACKER]

So there I was - thought this is a handy thread I got some lights to sort out(thanks to bensonsnuts), so prints off the 2 diagrams, reads the next thread, out with the snowpake, blank out the return loop. now I dont know whether I am on my Ar$e or elbow, would you gents please sort out a difinitive answer for 4 cruise lights with led's, wiring the led's into the sidelight circuit and the mains to come into 2 switches but able to flash with the headlamp flasher.
I have the lamps, I have 2 relays + wire etc in a 'quick wire kit' but dont realy like the switches so would rather not use them.
Domestic wiring no probs ....... motors!!!!!!!!!no!
grovel, grovel, thanks in advance

I used the method in my fist post above, but duplicated it 'cos I have four roof lights. I used two relays, one for each pair of lights so that each pair of lights/relays are fused seperately. If one pair of lights blow a fuse, I've still got the other pair to use.


p.s. Tony, you can just connect the LED part of your spots into the side lights on the truck. No fuse needed, just pop out a side light and connect into the live wire. (live when sidelights are on obviously!)

[MattF]

So there I was - thought this is a handy thread I got some lights to sort out(thanks to bensonsnuts), so prints off the 2 diagrams, reads the next thread, out with the snowpake, blank out the return loop. now I dont know whether I am on my Ar$e or elbow, would you gents please sort out a difinitive answer for 4 cruise lights with led's, wiring the led's into the sidelight circuit and the mains to come into 2 switches but able to flash with the headlamp flasher.
I have the lamps, I have 2 relays + wire etc in a 'quick wire kit' but dont realy like the switches so would rather not use them.
Domestic wiring no probs ....... motors!!!!!!!!!no!
grovel, grovel, thanks in advance

If you're going for the one relay method, use either a separate lead to each
spot or the loop wiring. If you're using two relays as Vince says, use the
same wiring technique but split between the two relays. If you're used to
domestic wiring, it's the same as either spurs or ring mains, but you never
run a single wire to all sockets without looping the end socket back to the
fuse panel, do you, i.e: ring main. There is a specific reason for that last
wire.

Edit:
Images below. All other connections are as in the original pic of Vince's.

[POPEYE]

You all got me scratching my head now and i already wired mine, looking at your drawing's Matt i used the method in the third pic (last) ie one 30amp relay per pair of spots, one wire to each connected to relay, from the other side via a fuse board to battery, i took my switching from the high beam circuit under the steering wheel shroud, only thing that got me tarering my hair out was being told it was negitave switching at the stalk when my test light was telling me i had a live, i f**ked about with that for an entire day and eventually tried it my way and it worked, so mine only work if the high beam's on or being flashed,

[MattF]

You all got me scratching my head now and i already wired mine, looking at your drawing's Matt i used the method in the third pic (last) ie one 30amp relay per pair of spots, one wire to each connected to relay, from the other side via a fuse board to battery, i took my switching from the high beam circuit under the steering wheel shroud, only thing that got me tarering my hair out was being told it was negitave switching at the stalk when my test light was telling me i had a live, i f**ked about with that for an entire day and eventually tried it my way and it worked, so mine only work if the high beam's on or being flashed,

Should always try what you think first, then resort back to the advice
second. Saves a lot of hassle. Any of those ways works fine. Two relays
is the most adaptable option. If you want to add separate switching or
whatever later on, there's less altering to do to the existing setup. The setup
is generally determined more by cost or preference than method. Overkill is
always the best option, however. Especially when it comes to switch, cable
and relay ratings. Rate each above what you need, and the extra is always
available if required.

[BUSHWHACKER]

If you're going for the one relay method, use either a separate lead to each
spot or the loop wiring. If you're using two relays as Vince says, use the
same wiring technique but split between the two relays. If you're used to
domestic wiring, it's the same as either spurs or ring mains, but you never
run a single wire to all sockets without looping the end socket back to the
fuse panel, do you, i.e: ring main. There is a specific reason for that last
wire.

Edit:
Images below. All other connections are as in the original pic of Vince's.

That's how I wired mine, in the right hand diagram, so the spots can flash with the highbeams.

[MattF]

What does amaze me is the fact that I was bored enough to spend fifteen
minutes editing those images.

[WARRIOR72]

What does amaze me is the fact that I was bored enough to spend fifteen
minutes editing those images.

Glad ya did mate between you and bushy your nearly always right on everything anyhow...id have probably burnt my ecu out or something by now lol.... has anyone got any pics of different mounting types for a bar on roof?
i dont just want to wack an old roof bar up there tempted as i am in this fog!!
cheers