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  • #16
    Originally posted by TonyN View Post
    It'd like most of the MOT arguments, technically yes, but if you rock up to an MOT without a windscreen in your surf and the tester will either think you're taking the pee and get the hump or not take you seriously.

    Either way isn't the way to get an MOT, neither is arguing with the tester about stuff that is blatently dodgy even if its technically ok.

    Far less stressful to just prepare your truck properly, and fix any worn/broken bits so it works properly and go away happily for another year.

    I take ARB's off on trucks with broken links if I don't have spares in stock on the day and fix them properly after the MOT is done, otherwise fix them before hand and its no problem. Go with a broken ARB link or worn bushes and you will get a fail and will have to go back for a retest.
    I totally agree I always find that is not a good idea to fcuk off someone who you rely on.
    The ARB bush fail was I think clutching at straws especially as he said to clamp the bugger up tight and it will pass....
    Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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    • #17
      Its not down to wether the mot tester knows it should have one or his knowledge of other things, they have to follow the guidelines set out by vosa. If they were to fail things based on oponion and you protest their license would be at risk.
      well, that was a bad idea!

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      • #18
        But.............

        Would the vehicle pass the test if the item that was entered into the database as an advisory, wasn't there at the re-rest?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by muddle View Post
          Its not down to wether the mot tester knows it should have one or his knowledge of other things, they have to follow the guidelines set out by vosa. If they were to fail things based on oponion and you protest their license would be at risk.
          And to play devil's advocate

          What if said tester knew there should be ARB but passed the vehicle regardless,vehicle is then sold it to someone who goes around a corner/roundabout topples over and then who would be at fault.
          The driver obviously,the seller for selling a vehicle which had been modified from the original spec,or the MOT tester for passing an unroadworthy vehicle?
          Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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          • #20
            It's a bit of common sense really, it is in the mot regs if a steering or suspension component fitted as standard is missing that is a reason for rejection.

            If you rock up for the test with the arb's completely removed it'll most likely pass, it's an import and the tester can't prove they were fitted as standard, although if he thinks they maybe should be there he should advise they are not, then it's on your head if anything happens after that.

            If you turn up and they are fitted but have worn parts it will fail, if you then take the Arb's off and take it back for a retest it will still fail, not really rocket science for the tester to work out it should have them at that point

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JD_975 View Post
              ..... not really rocket science for the tester..
              Some testers shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of a screwdriver let alone a four post lift!

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              • #22
                The driver would be, the tester followed vosa guidelines, the seller sold the vehicle with the mot which passed in accordance to vosas mot guidelines, and the driver must have been going like a bat out of hell. Its not just going to fall over for fun becausr an anti roll bar has been removed.

                Good q vince, I would say yes because the item in question is no longer there, so cant fail. But you would probably have to appeal and the hassle wouldnt be worth it for the small price of links.
                well, that was a bad idea!

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                • #23
                  Also anti roll bars will not stop a vehicle from toppling over, that is an urban myth, they merely to some extent help to keep the vehicle level while cornering, the forces at play on a vehicle that is in process of "toppling over" would easily over come the corrective ability of an arb, if your vehicle is going over then it was wether an arb is fitted or not

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER View Post
                    Some testers shouldn't be allowed to be in charge of a screwdriver let alone a four post lift!
                    True enough, most are fine but there are a few with a god complex. I remember years ago a lot of the lads I worked with having a stern talking to from VOSA for using the word illegal on the rejection sheet. The VOSA rep went to great length to explain to them they were not the police and had no business telling people something was illegal!

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                    • #25
                      So the census of opinion is



                      I need to change my MOT tester.
                      Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by shokenore View Post
                        So the census of opinion is



                        I need to change my MOT tester.
                        You can borrow mine if you lke... as long as I can have him back?
                        "B.A." Baracus: "Talk to me, talk sense so I can talk back. Not all this jibberjabber like breaking the peace and all that."
                        www.johnthebuilder.info

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Wolfracer View Post
                          You can borrow mine if you lke... as long as I can have him back?
                          During the emissions test does your tester rev the nuts off your engine?


                          The first bit of the emissions test as I was having a conversation with the testers next victim was ok I could hear the turbo start to spool up and it sounded quite nice "yep thats' my truck" then the fcuker buried his foot in the carpet and all I could think was " my baby my poor baby"
                          Eat.Sleep.Surf.Repeat.

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                          • #28
                            Sorry

                            I seem to have opened a can of worms without intending to.

                            It would be good to hear from Warrior (if he is still a member) he has the book.

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                            • #29
                              Yep, its how they have to do the smoke test, plant throttle hold for a few seconds then off. Not nice by any means.
                              well, that was a bad idea!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by johnsiddle View Post
                                I seem to have opened a can of worms without intending to.

                                It would be good to hear from Warrior (if he is still a member) he has the book.

                                Tis just a mere discussion, we like these, no bitching or crying. So all is well.
                                well, that was a bad idea!

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