intercooler & spring lift

[shaggy]

at last lol
thats what i was asking
im not offroading at all and only ever go off road when i see a patch of mud and the mood takes me
so the £68 + vat springs will be ok from roughtrax then?
i can then get into whether i need shox at a later date
i just want stability on the motorway and general driving instead of skiding and wheel spinning round every corner

also when the new springs are fitted would you move the front torsion bars up down or to the same height seeing one side is higher than the other

[stormforce]

at last lol
thats what i was asking
im not offroading at all and only ever go off road when i see a patch of mud and the mood takes me
so the £68 + vat springs will be ok from roughtrax then?
i can then get into whether i need shox at a later date
i just want stability on the motorway and general driving instead of skiding and wheel spinning round every corner

also when the new springs are fitted would you move the front torsion bars up down or to the same height seeing one side is higher than the other

the roughtrax springs are sided but you will only get 1.5" of lift from these springs.you can crank the t/bars up a bit to level the surf up.Just measure the front before adjusting the torsion bars and then adjust them so much and take for a spin to let the suspension settle and re-measure again and adjust again if neccessary

[Apache]

With regards to the intercooler mate, It will use more fuel! It makes the air less dense so = more air into the engine. bigger bang! more ommph! but of course with this extra air it will use extra fuel! You might find your not "ragging" it anymore (if indeed you even do) so might save pennies on fuel by not accelerating as long! (perhaps)

The problem with the ebay one is the amount of pipe needed! its a long way to the front of the engine, down to the lower valance and then all the way back up again!! It just screams turbo lag!

Personally i would avoid the ebay intercooler! If your really desperate for an intercooler top mount really is by far the best way to achieve the results your after!

AAANNNNNDDD if you dont have at least the 1.5" body lift fitting an intercooler on top of the engine might be a complete no no anyway!

so...to round up! I think the ebay one will not be worth bothering with! I think the extra power will be pointless when it takes a month before the compressed air even enters the engine!

Lag wont be excessive, and certainly doesn't matter anything like as much with this type of vehicle as it does with fast cars (which incidentally, prefer to use front mounts in highly tuned / competition form)

Top mounts (whilst being probably an easier solution) will either suffer from lower airflow (due to trying to force air in where air naturally wants to come out) or heatsoak when stationary. They will however have the advantage of remaining mud free offroad! A front mount is the way to go if ultimate cooling effect is the goal. Lag shouldn't be significant. It wont take that long to pressurise that length of hose to 10-12psi given the speed the compressor is spinning at. I wouldn't be surprised if the increased lag is measured in milliseconds. Maybe someone should try it. I'll work out a way of measuring it

[BUSHWHACKER]

Lag wont be excessive, and certainly doesn't matter anything like as much with this type of vehicle as it does with fast cars (which incidentally, prefer to use front mounts in highly tuned / competition form)

Top mounts (whilst being probably an easier solution) will either suffer from lower airflow (due to trying to force air in where air naturally wants to come out) or heatsoak when stationary. They will however have the advantage of remaining mud free offroad! A front mount is the way to go if ultimate cooling effect is the goal. Lag shouldn't be significant. It wont take that long to pressurise that length of hose to 10-12psi given the speed the compressor is spinning at. I wouldn't be surprised if the increased lag is measured in milliseconds. Maybe someone should try it. I'll work out a way of measuring it

I reckon a roof mounted 'cooler is the way forward!
Not so good if you have rooflights fitted of course.

[Apache]

I reckon a roof mounted 'cooler is the way forward!
Not so good if you have rooflights fitted of course.

And you really are getting a long way away there...

What about a long, low one across the top of the bonnet in a shroud? Best of both worlds but a bit mental looking?

[BUSHWHACKER]

And you really are getting a long way away there...

What about a long, low one across the top of the bonnet in a shroud? Best of both worlds but a bit mental looking?

Ah sod it, just chuck a V8 in!

[Apache]

Ah sod it, just chuck a V8 in!

errr... ummm... well... yeah, you could do that too...

[shaggy]

Lag wont be excessive, and certainly doesn't matter anything like as much with this type of vehicle as it does with fast cars (which incidentally, prefer to use front mounts in highly tuned / competition form)

Top mounts (whilst being probably an easier solution) will either suffer from lower airflow (due to trying to force air in where air naturally wants to come out) or heatsoak when stationary. They will however have the advantage of remaining mud free offroad! A front mount is the way to go if ultimate cooling effect is the goal. Lag shouldn't be significant. It wont take that long to pressurise that length of hose to 10-12psi given the speed the compressor is spinning at. I wouldn't be surprised if the increased lag is measured in milliseconds. Maybe someone should try it. I'll work out a way of measuring it

so the 3 foot or so of pipework on each side of the intercooler wont get heated at the side of the engine either on the way down or more importanly on the way back up into the engine?
has anyone a ready made kit with pipes etc or do i need a mechanical genious?

[shaggy]

ordered a pair of 2" lift springs from roughtrax
i have to say i am impressed with the quality of service i have recieved so far
the guy i spoke to listened to what i wanted before telling me what he advised and he advised NOT to buy shox until i see if im happy with the ride with the new springs
he then advised me not to get the procomp 9000 but the 3000 as the 9000 are a bit harsh for what i want
and then he said not to worry about the postage charges if i wanted to buy the rest of the kit he would look after me so i didnt pay over the odds
so i just need someone in leeds to fit the springs for me

[Apache]

so the 3 foot or so of pipework on each side of the intercooler wont get heated at the side of the engine either on the way down or more importanly on the way back up into the engine?
has anyone a ready made kit with pipes etc or do i need a mechanical genious?

No, not in there long enough. Think of how much air a turbo shifts spinning at, oh I dont know, 20krpm conservatively?

I'd be surprised if it's in the hose for more than a second, and the flow is probably much higher than that.

I must admit to liking the kit that the guy on eBay is looking to produce. It'll be around the £300 mark he reckons. Thats pretty good for an alloy intercooler and that amount of silicone hose. Plus his time investment in designing the kit.

[surfenstein]

nah what you need to do is fit the intercooler inside a chamber full of refrigeration gas,like they do on turbocharged top fuel race cars.

[shaggy]

i mailed the guy off eblag and he says he has all the components on their way so he can supply a ready to fit kit with everything you would need
the price will be £325
so sounds interesting

my new springs arrived from roughtrax this morning at 7am & seeing i only ordered them at dinner time yesterday i am impressed
had them fitted today and the back end is back up in the air
the cornering seems better as well
i did the bounce test on the rear end and it goes up once then stops so the shox seem ok
the front end on the other hand is very spongy
when i push down it bounces up & down a couple of times before settling so i think i may need new front shox
so i will just have to put 4 new procomp 3000's on me thinks
ive looked on roughtrax and they have some 16" alli wheels for £70 each i may just treat myself to 4 of those as i have 16" already so the tyres from my old ones will fit
may also try a new steering damper to see if that stops the front end wobble at 65

[nero279]

liquid nitrogen pumping through a coil round the inlet manifold?

I just picked up an intercoler today, best bit - It was free! No idea what it's off of, looks like a Landrover 200Tdi one but the brackets are on the wrong side. Just gotta work out how to squeeze it in now. It's a nice small one so i'm hoping i don't gotta do a bodylift to get it in.

[shaggy]

i got my new shox and steering damper this morning from roughtrax and they are all fitted
the difference is very very noticable
how i ever got to turn a corner before i dont know lol lol
oh and of course when i brake the front end doesn't bounce up & down half a dozen times
getting a lift into my mind now along with a stainless exhaust and an intercooler when a kit becomes available
oh god i should just sell now before it owes me £10k lol

[Apache]

i got my new shox and steering damper this morning from roughtrax and they are all fitted
the difference is very very noticable
how i ever got to turn a corner before i dont know lol lol
oh and of course when i brake the front end doesn't bounce up & down half a dozen times
getting a lift into my mind now along with a stainless exhaust and an intercooler when a kit becomes available
oh god i should just sell now before it owes me £10k lol

No way mate! When the kit becomes available, email me and we'll see if we can get a discount for buying a couple of kits!