Hello!

[woodwarm]

Owen before pulling the head,have you done the sniffer test to confirm failure?


Are you aware the surf cooling system requires bleeding & sometimes burping ?

If not bled properly will lead to almost instant overheating

[pyemaster]

Thanks for the warning chaps, will avoid.

Having the garage remove the head next week, is there a general rule of thumb with the 3 about how fragile the heads are after the gasket has gone?

Thanks in advance.

Owen

[shokenore]

Also does anyone have an opinion of Steel Seal?

Thinking it could be worth a shot...

Owen

Steel seal has been covered here before.

http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/showthread.php?t=81978


See if soramad can give you a honest answer.?

[woodwarm]

Also does anyone have an opinion of Steel Seal?

Thinking it could be worth a shot...

Owen

Only worth a try Owen If your not keeping the Surf.

Read the thread started by jonthefish (general section)

Be prepared for snake oil products

[pyemaster]

Also does anyone have an opinion of Steel Seal?

Thinking it could be worth a shot...

Owen

[pyemaster]

Thanks fellas. It's done 110,000 miles and the last cambelt change was at 50,000 so probably about time to get that done anyway. I thought the 2.4 had a design flaw in the head, whereas the 3 had been redesigned?

Is it likely I've damaged the turbo or anything else other than the gasket and possibly the head?

Owen

[shokenore]

Another three litre kettle.

I think the only difference between the mighty 2.4 and the now troublesome 3.0 is age.
Inasmuch as the 2.4s are either tin cans or have had the head done or are indeed gobbling down lots of lovely petrol 1uzfe style.
Now it would appear that the relatively younger 3.0 are at "that age".
Even so still not bad for a motor that has probably done enough mileage to circle the earth half a dozen times.

Sorry for your loss

[oneidadan]

Unfortunately I think the 3l head just lasts a bit longer than the 2.4. Could be the coolant flush cleared gunk out of the crack in the head.
Good luck with it and hope it's something else, new heads for these aren't cheap.

[pyemaster]

It probably limped about 15 miles after the head gasket went, does anyone know the likelihood of further problems with the turbo or other seals?

I thought it was the 2.4 which were renowned for thisand the 3s were okay?

Owen

[pyemaster]

With respect, I've no idea what you're getting at. Thanks for the support.

It's back down with the garage this morning, mechanic said he replaced and bled the coolant just as he should have (and he's done work on previous cars I've had including coolant changes with no problem). He said he doesn't think the EGR removal would have affected its temperature, and also doesn't see how running some injector cleaner on a blat would have made any difference either.

I've texted the old owner this morning, but I can't see how it's his fault, it made the 300 mile journey back from his last weekend with no heating issues whatsoever.

Do you think I could have been lucky and it's just a head gasket? Or on these are the heads always needing replacement?

Thanks for you're help everyone, I'm totally gutted.

Owen

[woodwarm]

So you purchased a 3 litre ssrx from Graham, (Who may or may not already be on the forum!).

You then Had the garage remove the EGR and change the coolant, and some injector cleaner.

You've not complained about the seller, or thought about returning the vehicle & asking for a refund, after all it had been kept in very good shape by its former owner.
Neither have you asked about returning to the "garage" " but it happened within an hour of collecting it. "

Your not winding us up, are you Mr Owen Pye ?

[MadScott]

Oh noes not again...

I wonder, did the garage that changed the coolant bleed the system properly...

[yoshie]

Lots of white smoke and overheating, probably requires a new head.

[pyemaster]

Oh and it's the 3ltr.

Owen

[pyemaster]

Update, oh dear.

Had the garage remove my EGR and change my coolant today, and after popping in some injector cleaner took it for a run down the dual carriageway. After about five minutes it started overheating and showing a lot of white smoke. Not down on power but I fear the worst

Not sure if it is related to the EGR or coolant change, but it happened within an hour of collecting it.

Help guys? I think I'm going to need major work now.

Owen