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Originally posted by POPEYE View PostEspecially if she slips into deeper water, what the hell were they thinking steering her in so close to shore, unbelievable stupidityDo you know that, with a 50 character limit, it's
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Originally posted by si tate View PostWhere the hell would you start!!!!
Always amazed me whenever there was a problem at Sea there was always a Schlumberge or Schmidttak tug just around the corner waiting to throw a line, oh and claim salvage rights...Death rides a Black Horse
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Originally posted by Albannach View PostIsn't that standard practice with a sinking, but still movable Ship?
end of the day the buck stops with the captain and he was apparantly on the bridge at the time and in full command,
what is unforgivable is him leaveing the ship and leaveing passengers and crew to their fate, i aint any sort of hero but i couldn't live with myself if i did that, dont believe in going down with it but i would stay as long as i could, at least till i'd helped get as many as possible off or i got washed off the deck when she went under,Too young to die and too old to give a toss
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Its pretty obvious something went wrong, and there is no question that the Master ( captain) has to take the bulk of the blame, but Im a bit wary about hanging someone based on whats in the press. Right now they will be making up most of their reports, based around a few little facts.
As the Master he will have signed a flag state log book stating he was in full charge of the ship and its contents, and he should definitely have remained on board and taken control of the emergency. Whatever the truth turns out to be his life as a Master mariner is over and currently it appears deservedly so. Whether he was on the bridge at the time or not, hes still the vessels Master and the only way hes relieved of fault for the grounding is if someone deliberately disobeyed an instruction or if some other multiple failures took place. Even if the grounding is not his fault, his behaviour after it will come under plenty scrutiny, and its in this areawhere it appears he fell seriously short of expectations. Time and evidence will tell. Right now I will continue to take what I read in the press with a wee pinch of saltСви можемо
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Originally posted by John h View PostSame as Herald of Free Enterprise Si, as long as she doesn't slip into deep water they intend to multi-leg haul and lift her upright ( after draining the tanks of oil etc) * re ballast the keel tanks after temp bulk head patching etc, they are worried that the sea may hinder progress because storms forecast
Always amazed me whenever there was a problem at Sea there was always a Schlumberge or Schmidttak tug just around the corner waiting to throw a line, oh and claim salvage rights...
Before my time john.If its not broke don't fix it.
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Originally posted by POPEYE View PostHow old are you? 10 (ish) it was a car ferry that jibbed out with the loading doors open and promptly flooded and rolled over
OOPS! That probably isn't the best line to use!Last edited by tonupteabag; 19 January 2012, 20:03.I'M ALWAYS IN THE SH'T, IT'S ONLY THE DEPTH THAT VARIES!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by si tate View PostHerald of free what!!!
Before my time john.
And Vince is there no end to your talents , you also command a Satellite surveilance system as well ??????????Death rides a Black Horse
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Originally posted by POPEYE View PostHow old are you? 10 (ish) it was a car ferry that jibbed out with the loading doors open and promptly flooded and rolled over
Originally posted by John h View PostMy cousin made a fortune on that job ! He worked for Bridon the wire rope maker here in Donny The Salvage people ordered miles of the new stuff after getting the ferry back on its keel (flat bottom really) anyway Simon have you sold your Surf yet ?
And Vince is there no end to your talents , you also command a Satellite surveilance system as well ??????????If its not broke don't fix it.
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