370 miles to a tank!

[Diezel Weazel]

Just regular derv, I am going to get round to processing my 600 litres of WVO at some point.

Just do it Si ya won't worry about the mileage only how cheap it is, 100% is the only way to go n I fill up at Motorway services too .... just not their fuel

[Sir Plug]

i was just gonna say that

i drove mine hard recently, outside lanes on a motorway and killeda tank in a day - 372kms managed

best i've had was about 450k's driving at 55 on motorways only

That's what I get with a 1KZ and running 32" mud tyres.......

Helps when fuel is at $1.66 a litre (85p)!!

[popuptoaster]

The grabbers handle & feel just like H/T's, shame they not making them any more "well not the ones I've got anyway"

I've got Khumo KL71 M/Ts on my Vitara, our Surf is on road tyres, technically it belongs to the missus and she has banned offroading in it after seeing the state of mine so it will stay on road tyres.

[Karma Supra]

Vince whose is that?? 1uz?

I like.

are those 17" rays? I'd seriously like a set of 5 of those!

[BUSHWHACKER]

Vince whose is that?? 1uz?

I like.

are those 17" rays? I'd seriously like a set of 5 of those!

Mine!

Remember that 2001 2.7 petrol 3rd gen that was for sale on here a couple of years ago?

The alloys are 9X18 Smith racing wheels with 255/55/18 GG2s

[Karma Supra]

Ahhh nice!!! I rememebr when the paint on mine looked like that

-have you smoothed the plastic door trims - or is that a facelift thing??

The petrols seem pretty few and far inbetween, when I was looking first tme round I was looking for a petrol but couldn't find any that weren't rubbish spec!

It cracks me up the the americans all want to convert their 4Runners to diesel

[BUSHWHACKER]

Ahhh nice!!! I rememebr when the paint on mine looked like that

-have you smoothed the plastic door trims - or is that a facelift thing??

The petrols seem pretty few and far inbetween, when I was looking first tme round I was looking for a petrol but couldn't find any that weren't rubbish spec!

It cracks me up the the americans all want to convert their 4Runners to diesel

No plastic cladding on this one the grille is different and the front indicators are in a different place. It's a kind of 3.5 gen. the 4th gen started from 2003.

[Karma Supra]

I didn't realise the facelifts had the option of those arches and no side plastic trim bits.. looks nice!

I like the interior tweaks in them too

[BUSHWHACKER]

I don't know why, and I'm not complaining, but the arches are a metallic black.
The rest of the truck is plain old 202 black.
Interior differences are the centre section of the dash, heater controls with a backlit LCD screen and the cup holders are in front of the handbrake. The rear seats have three reclining positions, I don't know if they're the same on earlier 3rd gens. No rear heater, so it's got a double lid on the centre consol storage bin.

[nos4ra2]

I just had to top up the truck, and for all those that moan about running these things...

I just managed 370 miles from fill up to the fuel light just coming on and off, I anm confident that I could have made it past 400, but I wasn;t as confident that there would be another motorway services when I needed it!

The best bit? All those miles were done on a 2/3 veg oil mix

All that way and I didn't see another surf

How big is a 3rd gen tank?

My fuel warning light is on at 600km(ish) but thats a gen2.

[Dodge]

I can only deram of 370 miles, I get average 320km from a tank (60L) in my 3.0 on 33's, the odo is in kms and the speedo is spot on.

This gives me 15mpg, I did manage to get 18mpg on a decent run a few weeks ago, but I was driving like a girl.

[silvtr1000]

15-18mpg?! Ouch!

Do you guys agree with the the notion that motorway driving returns better mpg than urban?

My Corolla 1.5 petrol took €55-€60 to fill it, and I typically hit the bottom line on the guage at maybe 400 - 450km. My current 323 Familia 1.5 petrol takes €60-€65 to fill it, but seems to hit the bottom of the guage around 50kms earlier.

Right now, deisel is a good bit cheaper than unleaded over here: 151.9c national average for unleaded, 142.9c for deisel.

So when that's factored in, I'm guessing the cost of fuelling a 2.4 Surf won't be significantly worse than my current Mazda - any comments or opinions on that?

How big a factor are the tyres you run on a Surf in mpg? I really like the look of more off-road oriented tyres, but if they make the car a pig to drive, and return significantly poorer mpg, I guess I'd live with more road-biased tyres. Does anyone regularly run MTs on the road, out of curiosity?

My employer runs a 1.9 deisel A6 estate, doing a lot of mixed miles - motorway & urban & rural. He's been running a long-term trip on it for a couple years, and reports an average of 50.9 mpg. That's pretty damn impressive!


Mark

[Dodge]

15-18mpg?! Ouch!

Do you guys agree with the the notion that motorway driving returns better mpg than urban?

...


Mark

No, not as such.

Compared to driving round town, it will always be better for the same miles. But I run up the motorway everyday and it doesn't give me any more than if I go cross country, unless I drive easy say under 60mph, which I find very difficult.

[silvtr1000]

This may sound like one of those lame validating reasons (otherwise known as "excuses") you'd give your wife when applying for permission to get what you want, but slowing me down would be a good thing. I already have 4 points for speeding (details below, to explain I'm not a "speeder"), so doing 100km on motorways, and 60-80km rural would be ok with me (I think).

First 2 points: 1.9TD 90hp Alhambra, mid-week night, empty B-road, steep uphill gradient, 80kmh zone, doing 90-95kmh. I was told by the cop that I was doing 125kmh (no record of my actual speed - his words: "we had to do 125kmh to catch up with you"). Utter tripe. The Alhambra takes 15-20 seconds to get from 80kmh up to 120kmh when joining a flat-level motorway. 125kmh going up a hill (half a km long) is physically impossible. Wanted to appeal, till I discovered my licence had expired, so just took the points and paid the fine.

Second 2 points: 79kmh in a 60kmh zone. I was coming into an unfamiliar town, and hadn't seen a speed sign for a while, and made a judgement myself that 80kmh was a likely limit for the road I wa on. Mistake - it was 60km. 2 points & paid the fine. Fair enough.

So you see, a car that's uncomfy or uneconomical at, or above, legal limits is a better option for me.


Mark

[silvtr1000]

My 800 - 1000km weekly miles is 80-90% motorways/A-roads, constant throttle for most of it.

I reckon a 2.4TD Surf running at 100kmh (or at least certainly under 120kmh) won't return significantly higher mpg than a 1.5 petrol 323 running at 120kmh all the way. And factoring in deisel prices vs petrol prices, cost should be more or less the same.

Or I could be just plying my self with validating reasons...

Anyway, when you want what you want, you just accept what you don't like about it, don't you?


Mark