Libya

[slobodan]

Several good questions.

One you missed was why were we not interested in the slaughter in Zimbabwe - other than sending Mugabe a few strongly worded emails telling him to stop being such a naughty boy?

It's weird isn't it? Libya has a small population and 1.5% of the worlds oil.
Suddenly all the western powers all back the uprising.
Payback against Gaddafi maybe?

The same sh1t is happening in Bahrain and to a lesser extent Saudi A. but that's largely ignored.

Ivory coast, Zimbabwe, Somalia. Nothing!

Maybe some hidden agendas we know nothing about.

[gwh200]

So considering the UN had a reputation for timidity and inaction...maybe the fact that they dithered during the Balkan genocide..maybe because they couldn't afford that scenario to happen again. People being murdered by a lunatic, hell bent on retaining his leadership...no matter what.

And stop bringing religion into it...that shite causes this shite to happen.

[slobodan]

So considering the UN had a reputation for timidity and inaction...maybe the fact that they dithered during the Balkan genocide..maybe because they couldn't afford that scenario to happen again. People being murdered by a lunatic, hell bent on retaining his leadership...no matter what.

And stop bringing religion into it...that shite causes this shite to happen.

Ahhh, someone's been watching CNN.

[Apache]

Personally Gra, I think they've (once again) left it far far too late.

As they've intervened anyway, they should have at least done it when they had a clear shot of getting him, rather than bimbling around the UN for weeks giving him plenty of time to prepare himself and kill as many of his detractors as he could in the time left. I suppose thats the fault of the UN being far too beaurocratic really though.

As Slobo says though, who's gonna replace him? Or are we gonna hang around in Libya forever until they put someone in place acceptable to the west?

Difficult one - and one I'm glad I don't have to work out!

[schrodingers-cat]

What ever happened to good old assassination.

[gwh200]

I don't subscribe to CNN,fox. Or any other agenda. I didn't, and don't have an opinion on succession. All I do know is, the lunatic in charge is killing his own...nuff said. The "who takes over after" is out of my remit.
Did you get the bit about"killing his own" ...

[slobodan]

Did you get the bit about"killing his own" ...

Got it. So why do we (the UK) have to be the first in?

Why can't the US have a coalition with Belgium or Italy?

Like the British haven't got enough on their plate with wars in the middle east.

For once we should stand back and let someone else spend the money and put people on the front line.

Where's Rommel?

[Sancho]

Well, the French, of all people were the first in. The yanks, Canadians and Italians are involved too.

I think the difference between Libya and Bahrain, Egypt etc is the level of force that's being used against the rebels. I don't think the UN particularly cares about the individual deaths, but that level of violence in what is a fairly major Arab power could lead to the whole region getting unsettled and then there'll be serious oil trouble.

[slobodan]

My dad fought across Libya to Tripoli in WWII and he said the women there are smelly.

[Chillitt]

I am having trouble with someone in Serbia saying we should mind our own business...

[fingers21]

Got it. So why do we (the UK) have to be the first in?

Why can't the US have a coalition with Belgium or Italy?

Like the British haven't got enough on their plate with wars in the middle east.

For once we should stand back and let someone else spend the money and put people on the front line.

Where's Rommel?

Because thats what we do! We stretch our troops until they are as thinly placed as possible, have major defence cuts, then decide, while it can't get any worse, lets stretch things a bit more!

[Hazzo]

Its happening right through the mid east without any call for action, Gadaffi's no worse than any other out there, they're all dictators or those in place on behalf of US/UK/EU, its about oil and the arms trade, no more no less, money not lives, no one gives a monkey's about peasants, pretty much the same as here, democracy, a big laugh, terrorism, only if your being terrorized.

How come we have even more dough to waste on this but we can't look after our own issues, yet we are still involved in Afghanistan-Iraq and now Libya, if it smells of $hit, looks like $hit it usually is $shit, and all for the benefit of the ruling elite, no-one else, not you or I and definitely not the poor downtrodden souls in the middle east or our soldiers who come home crippled or dead after thinking/brainwashing that they're helping in these places. H

[JUDWAK]

i watch the news about 12 hours aday its all ways on in the back ground
i also follow web sites that are not main stream but come from public people that film whats going off for real right there and then
witch is something that the bbc itn cnn fox sky rtd and many more dont do
the whole reason for most the war on terror is a war for phosphorus uranium oil is just a bounus

same with whats going on today in libya
its not oil thats what they would like you to think
its phosphorus uranium its worth far more than oil

[Bogus]

I wonder what our government would do if someone somewhere started an armed revolution and took over parts of the country ?? Just thinking "out loud"

[fingers21]

I'm game! Can we have surfs instead of land rovers though?!