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  • #16
    Originally posted by flounderbout View Post
    I liked the Aston Vanquish V12. On the rare occasions that it works that is.
    Why would it not work? Is it not basically two Mondeo V6s bolted together (they're nice and reliable) with a few minor tweaks; K&N air filter, furry dice, luminous green plug leads etc?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by schrodingers-cat View Post
      i bet that thing is scary to ride, all the handling capabilities of a pregnant camel with 3 legs.

      easy to park though - just lean it over on the side casing

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ambobeer View Post
        Why would it not work? Is it not basically two Mondeo V6s bolted together (they're nice and reliable) with a few minor tweaks; K&N air filter, furry dice, luminous green plug leads etc?
        No, the whole two Ford engines bolted together is essentially urban myth started by Clarkson being his usual self.

        But Aston's are notoriously unreliable, which is par for the course for any hand made low volume car, as the Vanquish was. The new Vantages and DB9s etc are apparently much better.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Paul1566 View Post
          You mean anything with rover stamped on it......

          Nah, one of these.......

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPH6E2HYEXI

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          • #20
            Originally posted by flounderbout View Post
            No, the whole two Ford engines bolted together is essentially urban myth started by Clarkson being his usual self.
            I got my info from a feature in a magazine in a dentists waiting room about how several big manufacturers save money by "combining" small engines to make larger ones. (so it must be true)

            hence Aston V12 6 litre= 2x 3 litre mondeo V6s (not as silly as it sounds when you consider how much ohmmph Nobel got out of it), Bentley W12= 2x VW VR6s. Think there was a Fiat combination to make a big Alfa engine too.

            There were diagrams and everything!!!!

            Nothing new, Triumph famously did it with the Stag by combining two Herald blocks on a common crank, I believe Coventry Climax did something simillar too.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ambobeer View Post
              I got my info from a feature in a magazine in a dentists waiting room about how several big manufacturers save money by "combining" small engines to make larger ones. (so it must be true)

              hence Aston V12 6 litre= 2x 3 litre mondeo V6s (not as silly as it sounds when you consider how much ohmmph Nobel got out of it), Bentley W12= 2x VW VR6s. Think there was a Fiat combination to make a big Alfa engine too.

              There were diagrams and everything!!!!

              Nothing new, Triumph famously did it with the Stag by combining two Herald blocks on a common crank, I believe Coventry Climax did something simillar too.
              nothing famous about that v8, if you actually managed to make them run they blew head gaskets faster than you could buy them - lovely car though.

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              • #22
                As sweet as they all sound, for me nothing beats the thunder of a big bore V-Twin. Not all that Harley/chopper sh*te. I'm talking about a 1060 Aprilia RSVR. Just like the one I have sitting here

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Ambobeer View Post
                  I got my info from a feature in a magazine in a dentists waiting room about how several big manufacturers save money by "combining" small engines to make larger ones. (so it must be true)

                  hence Aston V12 6 litre= 2x 3 litre mondeo V6s (not as silly as it sounds when you consider how much ohmmph Nobel got out of it), Bentley W12= 2x VW VR6s. Think there was a Fiat combination to make a big Alfa engine too.

                  There were diagrams and everything!!!!

                  Nothing new, Triumph famously did it with the Stag by combining two Herald blocks on a common crank, I believe Coventry Climax did something simillar too.

                  The Lexus V8 is basically two 2.0 16v engines welded together, hence the seperate distributor caps and coils.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by gbv2 View Post
                    As sweet as they all sound, for me nothing beats the thunder of a big bore V-Twin. Not all that Harley/chopper sh*te. I'm talking about a 1060 Aprilia RSVR. Just like the one I have sitting here
                    What about a honda cx500
                    But seriously
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTfz...eature=related

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by gbv2 View Post
                      As sweet as they all sound, for me nothing beats the thunder of a big bore V-Twin. Not all that Harley/chopper sh*te. I'm talking about a 1060 Aprilia RSVR. Just like the one I have sitting here

                      "Potato, potato, potato, potato, potato, potato,"

                      A Harley waiting at the traffic lights.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Ambobeer View Post
                        I got my info from a feature in a magazine in a dentists waiting room about how several big manufacturers save money by "combining" small engines to make larger ones. (so it must be true)

                        hence Aston V12 6 litre= 2x 3 litre mondeo V6s (not as silly as it sounds when you consider how much ohmmph Nobel got out of it), Bentley W12= 2x VW VR6s. Think there was a Fiat combination to make a big Alfa engine too.

                        There were diagrams and everything!!!!

                        Nothing new, Triumph famously did it with the Stag by combining two Herald blocks on a common crank, I believe Coventry Climax did something simillar too.

                        The Aston design was basically two 3.0L V6s, and the resulting engine has the same bore and stroke measurements as the original V6s. But that is about it.

                        So too the W12. It is two virtual narrow-angle 15° VR6 engines at an angle of 72°. But the important word is "virtual". It is not just a matter of bolting together some existing engines.

                        I guess it depends what you mean by "combining". If you mean they share design characteristics so that parts etc can be used for more than one engine, then yes it happens a lot.

                        Which is not to say that you can't build an engine using two blocks. They did just that with the Stag I believe.

                        But I suspect you wouldn't get away with it for a modern high-performance car, least of all one that cost £280,000.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BUSHWHACKER View Post
                          Which manufacture's V12 sounds the best?
                          It's a toss-up between the Zonda and the Countach for me.

                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1-_qESdqp8
                          Was that the Zonda ripping up & down that street?

                          You'd be cummin in your trunks watching that.

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                          • #28
                            No competition
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foDcL...eature=related

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by gbv2 View Post
                              Was that the Zonda ripping up & down that street?

                              You'd be cummin in your trunks watching that.
                              Yup.
                              Did you not notice all the others parked up on the side of the road.

                              I think the Countach sounds better, lovely crackle to the exhaust.

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                              • #30
                                I reckon this is a good alternative

                                http://www.gizmag.com/soundracer-v8-video-review/14019/

                                mind you, I reckon the mpg will go down

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