stolen surf

[JUDWAK]

I am aware most know George lives in his own version of the world.
However, just incase anyone buys the above advice.
Crimminal damage is not mitigated by telling the judge "it's okay mate my joiner pal has a new door ready and is fitting as we speak"

i have no criminal record
but yet i have broke into places and taken my stuff back
locked up gats and posted them a key and note
done this to doors too

if you care to look into it ask your local bobby

it was only last month i asked the police to help me brake into a old pub witch they did
for mi dads stuff

if you ask you well get

i dont just go booting doors off

i phone the police first
its up to them if they turn up or not

Crimminal damage
is when there is no reson for it or it was just a mindless act

[Apache]

I think I read somewhere that South Africa has no crime anymore.

Think that was in a fairytale book. Car jackings, muggings, shootings etc etc are rife out there. (Not what I see on TV BTW, a friend of my dads lives in Cape Town)

I'll take our 'poor justice system' and continue not to be shot, mugged or car jacked thanks mate.

[JUDWAK]

i cant find i link to that law
its an old by law about getting ya donkeys sheep and stuff back from other peoples premis or ground
its a law gose back to 1600's
i'll find it
i know my rights tiz all

[slobodan]

Think that was in a fairytale book. Car jackings, muggings, shootings etc etc are rife out there. (Not what I see on TV BTW, a friend of my dads lives in Cape Town)

I'll take our 'poor justice system' and continue not to be shot, mugged or car jacked thanks mate.

T'was the Hans Christian Andersen guide to South Africa

[Swanie]

The British public was shocked when they got the 2009 statistics for knife crime a whole 19 people died.
In one shanty town of Johannesburg more than 19 people dies a day of knife crime.
For Interest sake more than 20,000 under 19's dies a day in HIV in Africa alone.

Swanie

[slobodan]

The British public was shocked when they got the 2009 statistics for knife crime a whole 19 people died.
In one shanty town of Johannesburg more than 19 people dies a day of knife crime.
For Interest sake more than 20,000 under 19's dies a day in HIV in Africa alone.

Swanie

That makes the justice system there spot on then.


No need to change a winning formula

Any advice happily received.

[Albannach]

I've twice had everything I own stolen. The first time it was hard, very hard because all the sentimental stuff was taken. My insurers replaced everything, which was all stolen about a year later. That burglary meant nothing to me, other than inconvenience.

At no point did I ever think about taking the law into my own hands, that would be pointless and would only cause me more grief.

So in answer to Rob's post, I have lost far more than a silly wee engine and some car parts, so I can speak with some authority on this issue. I fail to see why anyone would condone the use of violence or encourage it (to the point of murder in more than one post in this thread) over a few bits of metal and plastic, it beggars belief.

[Albannach]

The British public was shocked when they got the 2009 statistics for knife crime a whole 19 people died.
In one shanty town of Johannesburg more than 19 people dies a day of knife crime.
For Interest sake more than 20,000 under 19's dies a day in HIV in Africa alone.

Which suggests our Judicial system works and the South African one doesn't?

[JUDWAK]

So in answer to Rob's question, I have lost far more than a silly wee engine and some car parts, so I can speak with some authority on this issue. I fail to see why anyone would condone the use of violence or encourage it (to the point of murder in more than one post in this thread) over a few bits of metal and plastic, it beggars belief.

very well said

[Surf01]

The British public was shocked when they got the 2009 statistics for knife crime a whole 19 people died.
In one shanty town of Johannesburg more than 19 people dies a day of knife crime.
For Interest sake more than 20,000 under 19's dies a day in HIV in Africa alone.

Swanie

I think you may have got your figures slightly wrong. I was under the impresson that it was 53,000 murders per annum. rape was at 52,000 per annum but is higher as a lot is not reported. Burglaries run at about 394,000 per annum and armed robberies 226,000 robberies per annum.
Now if we were all armed, any would be thief would think twice about robbing you as most of them are chicken yellow backs. The same applies to burglaries.
Having spent sometime in Cape Town, Jo'burg, Durban you soon learnt how to deal with theft. A pretty good method that worked for us was to keep poisonous snakes around and make sure the locals knew. We used to borrw them from a friend and keep them in a tanl on the verandah.
Our second method was to pay a witch doctor to put a curse on our house. On departure he would leave a few bones scattered around and we never got burgled.
Snakes should still work over here just make sure they don't escape!

[Albannach]

Now if we were all armed, any would be thief would think twice about robbing you as most of them are chicken yellow backs. The same applies to burglaries.

Boll0cks! If we were all armed the burglars would have guns too.

[Robmatthews]

I work a regular 60hrs a week for the last 3yrs without much holiday to pay for my stuff wether its a race car,surf, tv, nice stuff for the girlfriend etc, why should these people get away for it,

over the last ten yrs i've had a 17 yr old hit me in a stolen car with no licence, tax, insurance, he drove off,gave chase and held onto him when the #### lost control in mud at 20mph down a farm lane. he was heading back to the law abiding camp he lives at with the fellow travelers for save haven(police words not mine).in the time i waited for the police to turn up he tried his best to get me to lay into him,he knew if i did i would of been arrested for assult etc, i kept calm,
My 'poxy' engine has been stolen(which i worked fcuking hard for), there was only one person who knew it was there, the garage was secure with lock and padlock, 2 keys mine and his and the garage was locked when i found the engine and parts missing, the dumb fcuk locked it back up after he stole the parts to keep his gear safe!!
Do you know a thief that locks back up after himself?
I will happily do the time, all i gotta do is sit in front the judge and plead him taunting me, first offence is a few weeks community service if they had any evidence..

Im an electrician and have, as with many people been into somebodys house done a job and then told im not gonna get paid-ever, Now i've had to pay for the materials and my time-which i cant take back cause as the law stands i would be stealing it!!-I ####ing paid for it, its mine i've not been paid for it.
Thats fine i can claim it back through tax reduction-BUTS ITS EVERY HARD WORKING PERSONS TAXES THAT PAY FOR THAT-WHOEVER ANSWERS THAT BY SAYING THATS NOT TRUE OR THEY DONT MIND, REALLY IS LIVING IN A DREAM WORLD.
Or i go through the courts which should be dealing with the scum that steal surfs and rob houses and rape our girlfriends,wives and plays with kids instead they are dealing with petty things like getting my scum customer to pay me back 10 quid a week for three years,
instead the courts are sending the criminals on jolly outings, cash incentives to encourance them to change their ways, does it work nope.

There is no real incentive in this country not to be a criminal!

[Robmatthews]

I dont agree with arming ourselves, it would only escallate to the criminals being armed,which will lead to bloodshed of loved ones,

All i want as with everyone else, is the law to drop the softly,softly aproace and criminals to get the terms in jail they deserve, once they know they cant get away with it they'll stop doing these criminal acts.
Pedo's are 'treated' for their condition, cause as the law and human rights stands 'its not their fault they are born that way-what a fcuking get out clause that is!

drug addicts are 'treated' not jailed for stealing to pay for their adiction if they show remorse-there is help out there if they really wanted to get off the drugs and not ruin other peoples lives by stealing from them.

Its not good enough that for a first time offence you get softly handled, if i was sent to jail with no tv/playstation/cosy matress and made to work cleaning pavements comunity work 8hrs a day 7 days a week for 3 months for a 'small' crime of say shoplifting for the first time i would be thinking fcuk this crime dont pay i wont be doing that again!
Instead we have open jails i mean what the hell is an open jail! it may as well be the rits go out sightseeing for the day and back for dinner and doors locked...

[John h]

Any road up ! How about the Guy who lost his Surf ? any news ?

[long_finger]

Any road up ! How about the Guy who lost his Surf ? any news ?

No, no news mate. I thought I would have heard something through the local neds but sadly nothing. I'm not convinced the law have the resources to put up a spirited fight to find it either. I can't in all honesty envisage it being returned to me and really have to take the philosophical outlook on this and not drive myself crazy with resentment.
I'm getting a 3rd gen from Wales next Wednesday and have already decided to add more security with a handbrake lock. steering lock, or perhaps both.
However i'd like to thank everyone for their interest to date.

Cheers Johnny