Useless....

[RodLeach]

I think Rod needs a slap for starting this thread!

Already taken care of!!

Nah, Wod just needs a slap full stop. Gratuitous.

I was just reading an thinking "Bl**dy hell, Matts being useful for a change"


an then we came crashing back to reality!!!






Guys, for all your advice an comments i really appreciate them!! Im going to have another good read an take things from there. I'll try an get some proper careers advice an try an get some kind of direction!!

Cheers!!

[POPEYE]

I was just reading an thinking "Bl**dy hell, Matts being useful for a change"



Matt certainly is usefull! it's just figureing out what for

[pops]

I was just reading an thinking "Bl**dy hell, Matts being useful for a change"

Matt certainly is usefull! it's just figureing out what for

Its what they call in trade ( A TEMPORARY GLITCH)
HIS NORMAL SERVICE will RESUME SHORTLY

[gwh200]

But black is the absence of light or colour whilst white is its very antithesis, an infinite and equal abundance of all all colours....

sancho,

are you really that fella in that pic,looks quite young etc.....

or are you really 3897 years old having been sent here to mediate between the warring factions since time immemorial

im off to meet a (probablyquite merry) apache round a welsh campfire shortly.....should be interesting !

[Sancho]

I don't know what picture you mean, but if he is ginger and devilishly handsome (it is possible), that's me. I am a mere 31, but I feel about 70.

[MattF]

So if the choice was do the job you are in, to their rules, whist it, and the people in it p1ss you off - or, because it offends some personal moral, scrounge from the tax payer.

Yep, very moral choice Matt. To be applauded.

Anyway, enough of this thread now. You are p1ssing me off, and I dont come here for that, I come here to p1ss OTHER people off

Nope, that's not what I said. I said that finding a, what some might class as crappy, interim solution would be preferable rather than 'arse kissing', or being stuck doing a hateful job.

I think the cause of this discussion (other than MattF and Apache's desire to argue with anyone) is a difference of opinion over what constitutes arse-kissing. What I and, I think, Apache are advocating is not letting your personal pride get in the way of doing your job to the best of your ability.

Pride I'll agree on when it comes to a mere clash of opinions and nothing more. However, where do you draw the line at what is acceptable?

Just to clarify, Matt, my advice to Rod was to stick with plumbing for now. His only issue with it seems to be that it's causing him pain and I also suggested he got that dealt with properly. I also suggested that he considers what he might want to do longer term, and considers getting some recognised qualifications. I also made the point that he should try things without fear as it's never too late to change your mind and try something else.

My apologies then Sancho. I completely missed that part originally. Must have been too intent on trying to wind Andy up.

[MattF]

I don't know what picture you mean, but if he is ginger and devilishly handsome (it is possible), that's me. I am a mere 31, but I feel about 70.

Hell, thought you were referring to me for a moment.

[Sancho]

Hell, thought you were referring to me for a moment.

Morning, sleepy head. I have no knowledge of your classical northern beauty but the main difference is that I am 31 and feel about 70, whilst you're 35 and act about 80

[MattF]

I was just reading an thinking "Bl**dy hell, Matts being useful for a change"

an then we came crashing back to reality!!!

Matt certainly is usefull! it's just figureing out what for

Its what they call in trade ( A TEMPORARY GLITCH)
HIS NORMAL SERVICE will RESUME SHORTLY

And where did I say otherwise??

Like I said, I'd wash dishes, serve Big Macs, whatever I need to do to support my family.

I wont however sit back until something I feel isn't beneath me comes along.

Unless I've missed something in this rather short thread, he never mentioned doing nothing until he found something right, and you literally suggested he take any old crap regardless if it gave him the opportunity to elevate himself. That is different from being a teaboy/gofer/numpty/muppet/lackey until someone new comes along and you move up.

[MattF]

Morning, sleepy head. I have no knowledge of your classical northern beauty but the main difference is that I am 31 and feel about 70, whilst you're 35 and act about 80

Was going to try for a witty response then but thought, nah, he is right.