Hadron Collider

[KERRSURF]

I don't think that apes barely out of the stonage are just ready to explain all the mysteries of our universe but it's fun to try.

[gwh200]

If energy can't be destroyed it would support the (shaky) theory that blackholes are merely the entrance to a spacewormhole, it also means that the energy is expelled at the other end, that I would like to see.
The theories are great until we destroy everything and then there is no-one to see the result of the experiment.

errrrr wot !!

when a star dies, it can do a number of things.it can explode giving us a supernova, it can just die slowly and become a dead inert thing..or it can collapse in on itself.when it does this, it squeezes the neutrons out of the particle. ,this become an extremely dense matter. it is hard to visualise quite how much, but has been likened to the simile,imagine that the particle in question is the size of a cathedral, and a fly buzzing around in side is the neutron, well the fly would weigh many billions of tons more than the cathedral. thats how much of the mass of a particle is bound up in the neutron,and a good reference to quite how liitle space in a particle a neutron takes up.

well imagine all those neutrons bound together, having been squezzed out.the gravitational field that they generate (again gravity being the product of mass..ie the more massive an object the bigger its gravitational field).this field is so strong nothing..not even light can escape,all it can do is reach an event horizon,but you cant see it and if you cant see it...well its also very true that black hole theory is all theoretical.some leading physicists now believe that balck holes are not in existence, but instead we have gravastars.....who knows they dont !!

[The Lovely Boyo]

Some people just neveeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr learn. The fact that blackholes have multiple explanations and theories does lead to the possibility that there could theoretically be a black hole here on Earth which isn't actually here on Earth, but rather somewhere else.

Errrrrrrrr, a conveyor belt and an aeroplane springs to mind...........

[gwh200]

never mind all that...................the bl00dy world can come to an end for all i care..................


ITS NEARLY TIME FOR WALES !!!

[KERRSURF]

real wormholes (maybe)
http://www.physorg.com/news114261423.html

[gwh200]

i like that alan......nice

but like you said earlier we are still abunch of apes with no real understanding of what its really all about.no one canadequately expalin why anything happens, why the wind blows, nothing at all.

seems we need to find out a few more fundamaental truths here on earth before we get all "time travel" on our asses

[KERRSURF]

I think Bio knows "why the wind blows"

[KERRSURF]

BTW, Graham, the Clog campire chat will go up several levels when you arrive

[gwh200]

BTW, Graham, the Clog campire chat will go up several levels when you arrive

we ll im lookin forward to it..................poo and light speed !!

and whilst we're at it what about this one.

nothing is faster than light speed......apparently

an electron has a unique property called spin.when you invoke a 'spin' in an electron it has an immediate effect on its paired electron.
an experiment was performed whereby a photon of light was shot down a linear accelerator and 'spun', when several kilometers apart from its paired electron. the spin invoked in one electron had an immediate effect on the other....even though they were accelerating apart at light speed x2.
distance makes no difference when this function is performed, so an electron here on earth could spin and have an effect on its counterpart, right at the edge of the known universe.......which is much faster than light speed....except nothings faster than light speed..........go figure !!!!

[KERRSURF]

thats weird! (thats what folk who really no nowt about physics explain such things)

[KERRSURF]

is that the realm of quantum theory?

[biosurf]

we ll im lookin forward to it..................poo and light speed !!

and whilst we're at it what about this one.

nothing is faster than light speed......apparently

an electron has a unique property called spin.when you invoke a 'spin' in an electron it has an immediate effect on its paired electron.
an experiment was performed whereby a photon of light was shot down a linear accelerator and 'spun', when several kilometers apart from its paired electron. the spin invoked in one electron had an immediate effect on the other....even though they were accelerating apart at light speed x2.
distance makes no difference when this function is performed, so an electron here on earth could spin and have an effect on its counterpart, right at the edge of the known universe.......which is much faster than light speed....except nothings faster than light speed..........go figure !!!!

and isn't it these linked particles that may have the key to communication over vast distances (if we ever manage to travel them) therefore getting over the problem of messages arriving millenia after the sender sent it when travelling to distant parts of the universe? Or summat like that?

[Apache]

Am I worried?

No.

There are black holes and black holes. Black hole conventionally thought to be a massive star collapsed to produce huge gravitational field.

However, the same mechanism can at least theoretically apply to a few atoms occupying a space too small to imagine hence producing a mass / space ratio the same as a massive black hole though without the ability to suck in planets.

Dont let the facts get in the way of 'Dailymailism' though.

Sleep safely, you'll all be here tomorrow night.

[yoshie]

I struggle to get the cb to work from one side of the clog too the other

[Apache]

we ll im lookin forward to it..................poo and light speed !!

and whilst we're at it what about this one.

nothing is faster than light speed......apparently

an electron has a unique property called spin.when you invoke a 'spin' in an electron it has an immediate effect on its paired electron.
an experiment was performed whereby a photon of light was shot down a linear accelerator and 'spun', when several kilometers apart from its paired electron. the spin invoked in one electron had an immediate effect on the other....even though they were accelerating apart at light speed x2.
distance makes no difference when this function is performed, so an electron here on earth could spin and have an effect on its counterpart, right at the edge of the known universe.......which is much faster than light speed....except nothings faster than light speed..........go figure !!!!

And hence the key to time travel. Think about it. None of the laws prevent time travel into the past - at least back as far as when you first switch on your time travel machine.

Does this have connection to 'frame dragging' (go look it up - pretty thought provoking) do you think? We need black holes, or at least very massy stuff to produce the effect of twists in space (hence twists in time via Einsteins special theory of relativity).

Interesting stuff, but stuff that makes my brain ache. And its late.