Bit lush...

[darkdezigns]

ive driven quite a few gt fours in my old job, and every one of them has been SLOW as anything. you would expect a 2.0 turbo to be decent, but its complete CACK.
i even drove one with a front mount intercooler, it was better but still not quick tbh.

the older shape celica i drove had a standard intercooler (or should i say interwarmer) and was twice as fast if you drove it from cold.

imho - stay away :/ too much hastle with aspiration over their dodgy 4wd system, and not a performance car. sorry.

if you want something cheap and quick, get a scooby. i know almost every chav with a credit card has one, but at the end of the day if you choose the right one then you have a decent family motor, thats quick and cheap, especially if you get the wrx import. we thrashed an m5 with that, and it was stock turbo, intercooler, heads with different air filter and full 3" exhaust.

how to fall out with apache 101 lololol
ps i had an import wrx wagon

[Apache]

You COMPLETELY miss the point - as do a lot of 'youngsters'

Its not about going megafast, and I too have driven GT Fours. They were fast for their time, but feel rock solid so dont convey a great impression of speed, granted.

Would I have a GTR by Nissan/Intel or a UrQuattro? The Quattro any day. Probably a fair bit slower.

Would I have a FQ400 odd, or a Lancia Integrale? The Integrale every time. Also a fair bit slower.

A Scooby or a MK1 MR2? The Mk1, no question. No comparison in the horsepower stakes.

Why? I like interesting cars. Cars that started something. Maybe its my age. I'm not interested in being able to go to the pub and play horsepower top-trumps with my baseball hat wearing mates. Not interested in how many intercoolers I can light up with blue LEDs. I like to sit and look at them, and consider how they came about. I just think the current crop are characterless, pointlessly powerful boxes for the playstation generation.

STILL rather have the Celica, with all its excess weight and early stab at four wheel drive for a sports car because it is GORGEOUS and turns heads including mine. I forget the last time I looked at an Impreza, they're the 2008 Ford Escort. Everyone's got one.

@BDT - I aint falling out with him. He's young. He'll learn. I'm right. No question

[dieselboy]

how to fall out with apache 101 lololol
ps i had an import wrx wagon

i dont want to!
my opinion is purley my opinion. im basing that on about 3000 other cars i have driven,
i even drove a 740 to kent and back once, i liked it, but didnt like the fact the windows went up by themselves once you reached 140
however, im done being childish and immature now (i think) and ive settled for a surf that barely does 80

i had a fiesta that did 14 seconds 1/4, on twin 40's, i only sold it because it got to the point every time i was going out i was getting pulled over. the carbs barked so much it always sounded like i was caining it. scared a dog once when i pulled away at some lights. you had to keep tapping the throttle to control the paddle clutch. that was probably the best thing i ever bought for that car.
it would beat my mates 300hp impreza on a 1/4 mile,
the torque steer was immense, you had to pre-empt the a wheel losing grip so you could turn the steering wheel to counteract it.

before i got rid i should have replaced the lsd with a stock one, and welded it up to lock it. i would never have been able to park it after that but it would have been safer to drive, and had better 1/4 times

[dieselboy]

Why? I like interesting cars. Cars that started something.

i agree with you!

what i liked a lot about my fiesta (laugh as you will, but it was a mk1 supersport, and was a classic show car, had been in classic ford numerous times as the photographers who were there for the anglias and escorts had to get the ONLY mk1 fiesta about at that time)
well what i liked most was when we would drive up to box hill for a decent bit of grub and then a casual drive back.

there was NO heating, NO stereo, just 2 recaro seats, a rock solid roll cage, a dash board, smallest steering wheel i could find, 4 point harness and an engine i rebuilt myself. every bolt i had held, every bearing, the camshaft i carefully slid in, the cam timing i spent a whole night doing, re-doing and double checking.
and when you drove that normally it sounded like gargling water. you could hear each valve sucking in air.
i even advanced the cam timing once so that i could get a different power band, that was interesting as it made the carbs about 10x louder and the exhaust quieter.

what im saying is, i understand your point. and there is absolutely no car that does that for me, the surf does. well, my red one does / did. but the idiot drivers round here take the pleasure out of driving. thats why my surf is the way it is, as i now refuse to slam on my brakes for some foreigners mistake, or make illegal swerves
may be im going off the point here lol

[Apache]

Have you REALLY driven 1.3 different cars every day, including weekends, bank holidays and christmas for the last 6 years??? Either you haven't really, or you're not really 23.

I like the big Volvos. Had a T5 hire car once. A proper wolf in sheeps clothing. Prefer the V70 TD though... I'd have one of them if I wanted a decent sized estate.

i dont want to!
my opinion is purley my opinion. im basing that on about 3000 other cars i have driven,
i even drove a 740 to kent and back once, i liked it, but didnt like the fact the windows went up by themselves once you reached 140
however, im done being childish and immature now (i think) and ive settled for a surf that barely does 80

i had a fiesta that did 14 seconds 1/4, on twin 40's, i only sold it because it got to the point every time i was going out i was getting pulled over. the carbs barked so much it always sounded like i was caining it. scared a dog once when i pulled away at some lights. you had to keep tapping the throttle to control the paddle clutch. that was probably the best thing i ever bought for that car.
it would beat my mates 300hp impreza on a 1/4 mile,
the torque steer was immense, you had to pre-empt the a wheel losing grip so you could turn the steering wheel to counteract it.

before i got rid i should have replaced the lsd with a stock one, and welded it up to lock it. i would never have been able to park it after that but it would have been safer to drive, and had better 1/4 times

[BUSHWHACKER]

Hmmmm......................... .............................. ................


so anyway, seen the new Celica due out next year? it's got a playstation engine and you'll most likely have to import one if you want it.

[darkdezigns]

surf is my 56th car in my name and im 30 lolol,talkin of mk1 fiestas i once had a lovely one,tranverse mounted 2.0 pinto on weber 40's,but mine had a stereo,unfortunately after the one yr build(down to shell and back),i had it on the road 2 weeks and it was stolen,still no sign of it to this day,i even remember the reg AUF 187T,god she was fun

[dieselboy]

Have you REALLY driven 1.3 different cars every day, including weekends, bank holidays and christmas for the last 6 years??? Either you haven't really, or you're not really 23.

I like the big Volvos. Had a T5 hire car once. A proper wolf in sheeps clothing. Prefer the V70 TD though... I'd have one of them if I wanted a decent sized estate.

YES those T5's are rapid!! a bit like the mitsubishi legnum! they are both real wolfs in sheeps clothing!! but the volvo is a bit more luxury tbh

well, no, not 1.6 cars every day, its more like 3 - 4 cars every day monday to saturday (including saturday) for over 2 years.. works out to be about 2000, sorry was over exagerating

ive even driven a couple of those hand bult mercedes G wagons.. didnt like em haha

[darkdezigns]

Hmmmm......................... .............................. ................


so anyway, seen the new Celica due out next year? it's got a playstation engine and you'll most likely have to import one if you want it.

i actually like it,and u cant go wrong with a boxer engine

[dieselboy]

surf is my 56th car in my name and im 30 lolol,talkin of mk1 fiestas i once had a lovely one,tranverse mounted 2.0 pinto on weber 40's,but mine had a stereo,unfortunately after the one yr build(down to shell and back),i had it on the road 2 weeks and it was stolen,still no sign of it to this day,i even remember the reg AUF 187T,god she was fun

there has been a couple rwd pinto fiesta about... too much work for me!

[darkdezigns]

there has been a couple rwd pinto fiesta about... too much work for me!

was amazin tho,everyone i took out in it,were left speechless ,was loads of work tho,bout twelve yrs ago,cost in parts bout 4 grand and every evening and weekend for pretty much a year

[dieselboy]

was amazin tho,everyone i took out in it,were left speechless ,was loads of work tho,bout twelve yrs ago,cost in parts bout 4 grand and every evening and weekend for pretty much a year

another reason why ive gone off cars... too much work and money.