£1.16 a Litre ????/

[Albannach]

I live rurally...My local Murco is gonna get the sharp end of my tongue at £1.17 a litre

You tell them Amanda!

Also, I forgot to say in my post before. The 22% of the cost of fuel that is not direct government duty, is taxed at 17.5%. The oil exploration companies also pay the UK government a 'Windfall' tax on every barrel of oil extracted. They also pay licence fes to operate. That's why if you ignore basket prices and look at individual oil prices, UK crude is way more expensive than Middle East crude. This also explains the previous question as to why we import when North Sea crude is superior. North Sea crude is sweet, Middle East crude is sour. But the cost of sweetening is lower than the dutys imposed on our crude, that's why we import...

[BUSHWHACKER]

Over a fiver a gallon ??

have we gone mad ???

Rant over

Petrol is cheaper.

[jeff.fn02jwa]

Right... First off jeff.fn02jwa, punctuate! It's next to impossible to read what you just said without punctuation.

Secondly, the oil giants are not raping anyone. I work for one of them, so speak with some authority on the subject. The oil giants, as you call them, do not make that much money from petrol or DERV fuel. They make maybe 2ppl, the reason the profits are high is that they sell so much of it. If Esso decided to give theit petrol or DERV fuel away for free, you'd not even notice it.

If a litre of fuel costs £1 at the pump, around 78% is duty, 2% supplier margin 15% dealer mark up and 5% transport costs.

Remember the transport costs also rise with the cost of the fuel, they are also averaged so as not to discriminate against rural areas.

If fuel is more expensive in rural areas, it's the dealer who's bumped the price up, not the oil company. In fact, most of the oil companies subsidise rural area deliveries.

well as you say its the gov that we should blame for all we as people of the country can do to make the gov listen to the folks of the uk is do as we did bloke aiding is what we have to do make the gov sit and say no civil unrest please as the way the gov will say it is with police lifting us for blocking the highway but if civil unrest by bloke aiding is what must happen i will be back at grangemouth to get the gov to drop down on and give up a price drop of say 25 p per ltr and pig will fly some day

[BUSHWHACKER]

Jeff, they're between the 'M' and the '?' keys.

[jeff.fn02jwa]

Jeff, they're between the 'M' and the '?' keys.

what is ... don't use them m8

[jeff.fn02jwa]

the top price that i saw to day

the top price that i saw to day was £1.12 p per ltr and that was in Ayrshire

[Maverick]

We don't benefit from North Sea oil, because Thatcher sold it to Dutch Shell (good call there).
Also (and this is not in any way to be taken as a defence of Shells profits) Shell produce many other products, one regular item that I receive from them is PO (nice little chemical). So their profits aren't in relation to the cost of fuel.
The theiving gits are sat in London, who don't pay for their fuel (we pick up the tab) and have never done an honest days work in their lives. I know of no solution with this problem because everyone of them is the same, and they have brought in enough law changes, or friends in high places to safe guard their living, and our suffering.

I am most annoyed because I had to fill up today, and she won't run cleanly on more than 6 litres of veg with the present temperature fluctuations.

I actually did the maths (whilst cueing for diesel) and if I can get a car that a vehicle doing over 40mpg would save me over £700 per year, so I've been trawling eblag for cheap diesel.

[Albannach]

I pid 112.9ppl in Denny today. Only paid that cos I hadn't enough fuel to go to Stirling!

[John h]

OMG what a hangover ! Shell on the A19 at doncaster are raking it in at 114.9 a ltr Our local morrisons is closed for a re-furb and they had it on for 109.9 ! the Jet stations range from 114.9 to 117.9. I must admit my commute is getting pricey but you don't get any simpathy here in Barnsley 'Its a Gas Guzzler' end of story !

[charvell]

The Chancellor is set to announce a shake-up of car taxation, with people buying the most polluting vehicles heavily penalised and those who go for green alternatives paying less tax. Buyers of “gas-guzzlers” in car tax Band G will be confronted with a first-year charge of more than £1,000 in vehicle excise tax, before it reverts to the current level of £400. Mr Darling will also increase the number of bands from the current seven. Drivers in the lower bands will pay less tax than at present. The higher the emissions, the higher the first year excise duty

This was taken from the times web site.. Our trucks don't have emissions listed on the log book.. so this should not effect us.

[captain_chaos]

If the UK road hauliers stop for a week it would cause some disruption, no trucks + no deliveries = uh oh. But over on the port where I am I'm seeing more and more european trucks comming over carrying extra fuel tanks filled to the brim with cheaper diesel, giving them a further range before having to return back. So with the UK drivers blockading there's going to be a lot more routes for the foriegn drivers to do.
And as for surfs being too old to be classfied for the emmissions scheme of tax banding, how long will it take to rearrange the scheme to get your vehicle emmissions from when you have your MOT and work out how much your tax would be from that.

[PC-Surf]

Hey you guys havn't got it too bad. Over here the cheapest is £1.15. yes the cheapest! Mainly because we get our fuel from you and have to pay extra for it being shipped over here! I'm thinking about cutting a hole in the floor tray and going all Flintsone style!!!

[captain_chaos]

I'm thinking about cutting a hole in the floor tray and going all Flintsone style!!!

You're converting it to a 2.4 then?

[fergus]

Albannach-"Secondly, the oil giants are not raping anyone"

Not too sure i agree with you there, from the figues below I wouldn't exactly describe them as "Not for Profit organisations"

For 2006 as a whole, BP's profits rose 15% to $22.3bn, lifted by higher oil prices.
Exxon, which is the world's largest oil company, unveiled profits of $39.5bn (£20bn) for 2006 - setting a new record for the highest-ever profit reported by an American company.

At Shell, annual profits jumped by 21% to $25bn (£12.72bn), which means the oil giant earned $70m a day of pure profit from its global network of production platforms, refineries and petrol stations.

Fuel will never be cheap again-certainly never drop under £1ltr for the simple reason of growing demand. it amazes me when people who drive big cars with 3ltr engines complain about the cost of fuel. If we are all honest 90% of us dont really dont need such big engined cars.
The other thing that i find funny is that we will complain about fuel at £1.16 but pick up a 500ml of Coke at £1 from the same garage!

[Trinity]

It's not the actual cost of the fuel that everyone's angry about - it's the blood sucking government putting so much tax on it!

If we all drank several litres of coke a day we would complain about the price of it but i don't imagine many of us do, so you don't mind when it's now and again

And why shouldn't we have big engined gas guzzlers? We shouldn't be penalised for our choice of vehicle - i never want to drive a normal car again after having various trucks.(the surf being the best of course)

Maybe i should complain to the government that it's against my human rights to try to make me buy a normal car by making trucks so expensive to run & tax...

Down with Brown!