are carbon footprints $$$$$$$$ or am i $$$$ at maths?

[da SLUG man]

just looking for directions and multimap has a little window showing how much carbon you'll use for the journey....

for 53.23 miles in a large diesel i will put out 22.56kg of carbon...

am i daft on a late night thinking that the diesel you use wouldn't even weigh that much!?!?!

or am i just a late runner for the trophy?


p.s. diesel is 0.85kg/litre

[AndyLala]

so by their estimates... you'd be doing... 115 miles... at 23 mpg...

but you are driving a diesel with a life expectancy of a minimum 25 years not 7...

its all pants... and too late

[da SLUG man]

so by their estimates... you'd be doing... 115 miles... at 23 mpg...

but you are driving a diesel with a life expectancy of a minimum 25 years not 7...

its all pants... and too late

well, i'll actually be driving a concrete mixer at 6.5mpg!!...

the exhaust's 11ft in the air spreading the pollution around for us all to share!!!!
(on the plus side it's Euro4 so i can pollute the city folk too!!)

[Slugsie]

Here is my (very simple) understanding, which could be very wrong, and I'm welcome to be corrected by any chemists/physicists out there.

The weight of the CO2 emitted comes from 1 part C from the fuel, and 2 parts O from the air. As O weighs more than C, the O2 part makes for more than 66% of the weight of the CO2. So for every KG of fuel burnt, you can easily emit more than 3KG of CO2.

Maybe.

[yoshie]

Graham is the resident physicists expert

[The Lovely Boyo]

Mate,

All of it, and I mean ALL is a total pile of shyte.

Humans walked out of Africa about 40,000 years ago.

In the last 3 million years it is estimated that there has been 50 ice ages. Every ice age is followed by a global warming - err, thats why the ice melts. Caused by the earth/moon/sun cycle, runs over eons. Facts ignored by most of the greens.

If all human life ceased right now the planet would still warm and cool for the rest of its life.

Carbon offsets - massive pile of shyte designed to earn money for the suits trying to salve someones Bentley guilt trip.

[Slugsie]

Mate,

All of it, and I mean ALL is a total pile of shyte.

Humans walked out of Africa about 40,000 years ago.

In the last 3 million years it is estimated that there has been 50 ice ages. Every ice age is followed by a global warming - err, thats why the ice melts. Caused by the earth/moon/sun cycle, runs over eons. Facts ignored by most of the greens.

If all human life ceased right now the planet would still warm and cool for the rest of its life.

Carbon offsets - massive pile of shyte designed to earn money for the suits trying to salve someones Bentley guilt trip.

Very true.

[ABE]

Carbon offsets - massive pile of shyte designed to earn money for the suits trying to salve someones Bentley guilt trip.

Never understood carbon offsetting if a guy in alaska doesn't use his quote of carbon then you can buy it of him and use it up instead. I would have thought if the guy in alsaka didn't use it then it should be all the better not used by somebody else, where is saving carbon there?

Like boyo said the whole thing is a big pile of. . . . . . . . .

Though I have to say I love the theory that it is all the cows fault due to them F arting all the time. if that is not passing the buck I don't know what is

[gwh200]

Here is my (very simple) understanding, which could be very wrong, and I'm welcome to be corrected by any chemists/physicists out there.

The weight of the CO2 emitted comes from 1 part C from the fuel, and 2 parts O from the air. As O weighs more than C, the O2 part makes for more than 66% of the weight of the CO2. So for every KG of fuel burnt, you can easily emit more than 3KG of CO2.

Maybe.

not bad dude,not bad.

but im reading up on this and will give the definitive answer later.it is possible to liberate an enormous amount of energy from a small amount of matter ,(think atomic/hydrogen bomb).
there is a slight tickle in as far as molecular mass
with (i think) co2 having a larger relative density,so it could very well
emit more co2 in the form of liberated fossil fuel.
but what boyo says,ABSOLUTELY.
we seem to regard co2 as some sort of deadly poison,when in fact without it we would fry,its quite an essential greenhouse gas,as are all greenhouse gases ...essential !!
the elevated levels of carbon we have in the atmosphere,are NOT anything to do with any activity we do today,it takes about 800 years
for carbon to precipitate out into the enviroment.the raised levels we have are due to the warm medieveal period some 800 years ago,

coincedence ,huh !!

but al gore would let you believe,encourage you even,to believe its a direct result of emissions today,and thats just plain bad science,bull and its wrong as well !!

any hows wil try and find out if fossil fuels will liberate large amounts of co2

[dieselboy]

Mate,

All of it, and I mean ALL is a total pile of shyte.

Humans walked out of Africa about 40,000 years ago.

In the last 3 million years it is estimated that there has been 50 ice ages. Every ice age is followed by a global warming - err, thats why the ice melts. Caused by the earth/moon/sun cycle, runs over eons. Facts ignored by most of the greens.

If all human life ceased right now the planet would still warm and cool for the rest of its life.

Carbon offsets - massive pile of shyte designed to earn money for the suits trying to salve someones Bentley guilt trip.

i have alsways wondered why when reading the paper back at the weather records from like victorian era that they had silly temps. frozen lakes etc... then back even further and im pretty sure i can remember reading they had some silly hot january at like 18c.
cant remember about any hot summers though

[gwh200]

whenlife on earth bis presumed to have burst forth(the cambrian explosion)
the levels of oxygen,co2,and water vapour were loads higher than they are today.this precipitated all the iron,which had probably been deposited by a meteor to rust.

the point im trying to make is that the earth has seen many cataclysm's
yet flourished.anything we do today with regards to the enviroment is pretty small beer compared to previous,naturally occuring events.
it just seems that it really is aan excuse to raise money,by quotin"its an enviromental issue"

[Apache]

Isn't the earth a closed loop system anyway? All of the matter (give or take a few meteorites) has for at least as long as there's been life here, always been here?

And Ice, there is no more or less water in the oceans. Ice freezes and becomes less dense (thats why it sticks out) - when it thaws, it doesn't increase the volume of water at all. Its still the same, so why would sea levels rise cos (sea-born) icebergs melt?

Bah! Most of the 'man made global warming' proof I've seen has been pseudoscientific claptrap spouted by people with hidden agendas.

[gwh200]

Isn't the earth a closed loop system anyway? All of the matter (give or take a few meteorites) has for at least as long as there's been life here, always been here?

And Ice, there is no more or less water in the oceans. Ice freezes and becomes less dense (thats why it sticks out) - when it thaws, it doesn't increase the volume of water at all. Its still the same, so why would sea levels rise cos (sea-born) icebergs melt?

Bah! Most of the 'man made global warming' proof I've seen has been pseudoscientific claptrap spouted by people with hidden agendas.

yes,tis a close system.
you may turn fossil fuel into free radicals and so forth and so on,but you cant alter the net balance of "stuff"
we have approx 1.3 milloin cubic kilometres of water on earth,thats all we have ever had, and its all we are ever gonna have.

hidden agenda's,...no !!

just a tax raising exercise (again)

[pirate-storm]

ok ok youll prob say im becoming tree hugger lol
but i still think if we didnt chop down all the trees in the rain forests we wouldnt have half the probs we do today.
mother earth just doing what it does naturally. n she's a good healer. n i agree with apache bout sea levels.
then on the news other day they was on about floods will get worse in the uk. well i say get off your r'ssss n make the drains bigger, seems to me they dont think the drains are to small some areas are still living in victorian times with small drainage systems, or building houses in flood plain areas, to me it just a excuse to make more money for nothing n let them stupid politicains have their holidays n expenses paid partys etc etc.

[BUSHWHACKER]

Didn't the free radicals have a top ten hit back in 1994?