Veggie burning

[johnsiddle]

Hi Guys
Just contemplating buying a Surf, whats involved in veggie burning??
Do you have to modify the engine and what does it cost??

john

[evil_jesus]

lots of info here

http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=15893

[The Lang-Shankit Scunner]

Hi Guys
Just contemplating buying a Surf, whats involved in veggie burning??
Do you have to modify the engine and what does it cost??

john

No mods for a 50/50% mix, and it cost anywhere from 58ppl to 78ppl, cash and carry being best bet. For 100% youd need a complete coversion kit

Heres a basic idea of whats involved

[johnsiddle]

Veggie Burning

Thanks Guys.
A slight follow on, is Bio Deisel the same as veggie or is it treated the same as ordinary deisel
John

[The Lang-Shankit Scunner]

Thanks Guys.
A slight follow on, is Bio Deisel the same as veggie or is it treated the same as ordinary deisel
John

I hate biodiesel, methanol is used in priocess and has gubbed a few engines, i would rather use high percentage of veg oil with a little unleaded (safer) Some guys get away with 40% diesel 55% veg oil 5% unleaded

[charvell]

Thanks Guys.
A slight follow on, is Bio Deisel the same as veggie or is it treated the same as ordinary deisel
John

hello mate in the summer i have used 80% veg with 20% derv. dont have any problems at all. at the moment i am running on 50/50 again with no problems.

go for it mate you wont regret it. a nice 3rd gen is wot u need in green

Colin

[madcampbell]

Hi Guys
Just contemplating buying a Surf, whats involved in veggie burning??
Do you have to modify the engine and what does it cost??

john

I am running 45ltr veg oil 15 ltr diesel now its cold very lumpy start with loss of power for the first 1km after that fine but with a bit of a lumpy tickover..no mods on mine

Mark

[johnsiddle]

Burning Veggie

Hi Guy's thanks for the feedback.

Out of interest just how much are people paying the tax man. I went thro most of the previous threads and read the tax man stuff and it seems the concensus is between 27p and 58p per litre, (I like the 27p bit) but not the other.

if I set a dual system with heaters what would I pay, the same for mixing it, what would I pay in either case????

John

[Fordy]

How does zero pence in tax sound?

[StevenN]

Re Pay the tax man

You don't have to pay the tax man a thing if you are not a business and use less than 2500 ltrs of veg a year!

[yoshie]

Hi Guy's thanks for the feedback.

Out of interest just how much are people paying the tax man. I went thro most of the previous threads and read the tax man stuff and it seems the concensus is between 27p and 58p per litre, (I like the 27p bit) but not the other.

if I set a dual system with heaters what would I pay, the same for mixing it, what would I pay in either case????

John

Read the veg thread top of general page
http://www.hiluxsurf.co.uk/forums/sh...=15893&page=33

[johnsiddle]

Veggie Tax

Even that thread adds confusion, cuz although the picture of the letter from the tax man is there saying its free, later posts says its 57p.

What I want to know is, What are you veggie guy's paying and did you register then fill out the EX?? form????
john

[cataclysm]

Even that thread adds confusion, cuz although the picture of the letter from the tax man is there saying its free, later posts says its 57p.

What I want to know is, What are you veggie guy's paying and did you register then fill out the EX?? form????
john

The Law changed in the summer THIS year, if you use less than 2500 litres, you don't need to register or pay fuel duty. VAT still needs to be paid (you technically aren't allowed to use food grade oil, but I haven't heard of this being enforced, and I used to use it).

[yoshie]

Even that thread adds confusion, cuz although the picture of the letter from the tax man is there saying its free, later posts says its 57p.

What I want to know is, What are you veggie guy's paying and did you register then fill out the EX?? form????
john

You answered the question "THE LETTER FROM THE TAX MAN"
I know who I'm taking tax advice from

[johnsiddle]

Tax

Ok guy.s
Thanks. Now think about this.

If a heater which incorporates water heating and has say a glow plug or some other form of heating permanantly inserted in the fuel line (near the fuel pump inlet) and controlled by a thermostat once the water temp rises. do you think this would affect the running when only diesel is being used and heated.

I am thinking that this would heat veggie by electricity until the water temp rises. No second tank, no mixing and no switching fuels, but sometimes diesel could be used when no veggie available.
Is thre a problem if diesel is heated???
This would be very cheap to manufacture and install, I may even manufacture and sell myself.

What do you guy's think??
John