New road tax / big brother scenario!

[MattF]

If they go 1 stage further you will have a dilemma - imagine a bonking tax !!!

You couldn't ask for a rebate without loosing face bigtime !!!

Be even more embarrassing if you never even got invoiced for any bonking tax.

[MattF]

Q. how can they distinguish if you on public highway or private land?

Other alternative would be to simply go tell them to go f*ck themselves. Damned if anyone would ever make me fit a tracking device to my vehicle. And before anyone says that it would be law, so what? If you're gonna' be treat no better than a criminal, might as f*cking well be one.

Especially for the Labour W@nkers:

[Maverick]

Q. how can they distinguish if you on public highway or private land?

A. Easy. GPS.

GPS can be inacurate. I traveled from North Yorkshire to Southampton once and all that day my GPS was certain that I was not driving on the road but 10 foot into a field. Sometimes when going to work my GPS can get confused and think I'm on the old unclassified road alongside me (and the other way round sometimes).

They released a white paper a couple of years back that went into detail on everthing except how they'd get it to work correctly.

[MattF]

They released a white paper a couple of years back that went into detail on everthing except how they'd get it to work correctly.

That's one of the reasons Europe is creating its own system. GPS is the American, (explains the reliability ), system.

[BUSHWHACKER]

Other alternative would be to simply go tell them to go f*ck themselves. Damned if anyone would ever make me fit a tracking device to my vehicle. And before anyone says that it would be law, so what? If you're gonna' be treat no better than a criminal, might as f*cking well be one.

Especially for the Labour W@nkers:

Right-on brother!

[sparkz]

GPS is not always accurate..hows about if you was a farm worker?..driving down the edge of your own land..and the other side of the hedge is a road...I don't think GPS could be accurate to 6ft?!

Ive fitted trackers (and removed them too) they are hidden, but in the whole scheme of things..my truck was a shell a few weeks ago..so I wouldn't be scared to find it, and leave it connected to a battery in the garage :-)

agree on the 'eating tax' tho!...might stop lard arse's eating so much, forcing them to have a healthy diet..thus saving potential spending on healthcare!..leaving valuable recourses available for the genuinely ill...good plan!

Tagging is for criminals..but criminals are hard to catch...law abiding folk are a much easier target...

Don't even get me started in Speed Cameras!

[MattF]

agree on the 'eating tax' tho!...might stop lard arse's eating so much, forcing them to have a healthy diet..thus saving potential spending on healthcare!..leaving valuable recourses available for the genuinely ill...good plan!

I really do hope that was intended to be sarcasm? If not, luxury food items are already taxed. And if you agree with that argument, you may as well sign up with the anti 4x4 brigade. That's exactly the same attitude they have regarding 4x4's. Someones personal choice is exactly that, unless free will has suddenly become illegal whilst my back was turned?

[MattF]

Right-on brother!

[Diezel Weazel]

GPS !!!! only gotta look at the Yanks accuracy !!! (friendly fire) & then any other people..........nearest run for Cover !!!!!!
I've always thought of meself as a bit of an outlaw, I ain't gonna change at 5? am I ? be serious

There's always a Payback .... You just know when !!!! or Who

[sparkz]

I really do hope that was intended to be sarcasm? If not, luxury food items are already taxed. And if you agree with that argument, you may as well sign up with the anti 4x4 brigade. That's exactly the same attitude they have regarding 4x4's. Someones personal choice is exactly that, unless free will has suddenly become illegal whilst my back was turned?

Eh?....I don't agree that I should pay taxes to pay the hospital bills of people who eat too much (im not talking about people with genuine medical conditions causing them to be overweight) and im not just talking about operations etc...the amount of money that is spent on medication which can be directly attributed to personal neglect is phenomenal...in my opinion that is wrong...if you abuse your body..you should be responsible to pay its repair bills

I don't see how that is related to 4x4 users tho?

your right..its everyone's right to make their own choices...however when those choices affect other people (financially in this example to me, in taxes) I think I have just cause to be unhappy about it

[MattF]

I don't see how that is related to 4x4 users tho?

I didn't presume you would. I shall, however, explain. That blinkered high horse view upon a subject, (which has been blown out of all proportion as always by the Government's media department), is exactly the same type of attitude that the likes of the booblehats and anti-4x4 bunch have. Just because you bear an opinion of a certain nature does not mean it should be inflicted upon people generally. Having your own opinion is perfectly reasonable, but targetting specific groups and saying they should be made to........, is generally hypocritical, to be totally honest. Tell me, should we ban drinking, driving, smoking and breathing in anything but oxygen rich environments protected by pollen and dust filters? No. All of these basic everyday things leads to far more impact combined than any weight issue, and every one of the above could be classed a a form of self abuse, an accident waiting to happen. What if you had a car accident, and the hospital told you to naff off because it was self inflicted due to you owning and driving a vehicle. Would that be fair? I think you may now vaguely see my point. (And I do only expect vaguely).

There is a vast difference between someone who may find eating likeable, and generally affect no one other than themselves through it, than say a thieving scumbag who is daily wrecking peoples lives. Being biased against the latter, that would make sense, as they are detrimental to everyones wellbeing for no other reason than their own gain. The former, however, hurts no one but themselves, and to penalise them just because they are happy living their life in a manner which they find suitable for them is a sodding politicians view.

(And yes, booblehats was an intentional spelling error. A mixture of bobble and boob. )

[Apache]

I didn't presume you would. I shall, however, explain. That blinkered high horse view upon a subject, (which has been blown out of all proportion as always by the Government's media department), is exactly the same type of attitude that the likes of the booblehats and anti-4x4 bunch have. Just because you bear an opinion of a certain nature does not mean it should be inflicted upon people generally. Having your own opinion is perfectly reasonable, but targetting specific groups and saying they should be made to........, is generally hypocritical, to be totally honest. Tell me, should we ban drinking, driving, smoking and breathing in anything but oxygen rich environments protected by pollen and dust filters? No. All of these basic everyday things leads to far more impact combined than any weight issue, and every one of the above could be classed a a form of self abuse, an accident waiting to happen. What if you had a car accident, and the hospital told you to naff off because it was self inflicted due to you owning and driving a vehicle. Would that be fair? I think you may now vaguely see my point. (And I do only expect vaguely).

There is a vast difference between someone who may find eating likeable, and generally affect no one other than themselves through it, than say a thieving scumbag who is daily wrecking peoples lives. Being biased against the latter, that would make sense, as they are detrimental to everyones wellbeing for no other reason than their own gain. The former, however, hurts no one but themselves, and to penalise them just because they are happy living their life in a manner which they find suitable for them is a sodding politicians view.

(And yes, booblehats was an intentional spelling error. A mixture of bobble and boob. )

Matt, for once I fully agree with you! Our freedoms are being eroded enough at it is without govt being allowed to tell us what we can and cant eat!

The Govt want us to s$$$$ our vehicle of choice. You could use the same argument as Sparkz to say that our vehicles pollute more (I know this is not neccessarily so, but its a popular view) so we should not be allowed to own them because others choose to drive smaller less polluting vehicles.

Where do you stop?

[Apache]

GPS !!!! only gotta look at the Yanks accuracy !!! (friendly fire) & then any other people..........nearest run for Cover !!!!!!
I've always thought of meself as a bit of an outlaw, I ain't gonna change at 5? am I ? be serious

There's always a Payback .... You just know when !!!! or Who

You'll be surprised just how accurate GPS is. It is currently 'hobbled' for the commercial / domestic user so it cant be used for nasty purposes without the decoding devices used by the military. Then it becomes accurate enough to know which side of the hedge your tractor is on.

[MattF]

Matt, for once I fully agree with you!

My apologies, then. I must have been having one of my lucid moments.

[sparkz]

What if you had a car accident, and the hospital told you to naff off because it was self inflicted due to you owning and driving a vehicle. Would that be fair?

im not suggesting hospitals don't treat the overweight..im merely stating that the tax payer should have to pay for it...

similarly using your example above, im not suggesting a hospital should not treat a car accident victim, however if its found that the persons accident was caused because they were driving like an ar$e I believe that they should burden the cost for it...again my opinion im not campaigning to run the country so you don't have to rush out and vote for me..

There is a vast difference between someone who may find eating likeable, and generally affect no one other than themselves through it

my example referred to the financial burden which has to be paid for by the tax payer, so clearly does affect others

as for thieving scumbags....chop their fingers off!!

Anywho...this all started as light hearted banter...all my former comments were meant to provide a ive obviously offended you by my fat person comments for some reason, so im sorry..


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